>Men's experience is relevant to them, but not the owners of the app.
Men are typically the vast majority of paying customers. If guys have a terrible experience they will stop paying eventually. But there's a sucker born every day, as the saying goes...
No, the previous poster wrote: Men will pursue women wherever they are. So if you have women on your platform, the experience for men can be horrible, they will still come to your platform.
Are they suckers? Probably. Do the platform owner care? Nope.
The platform owners clearly care about user experiences because they tweak stuff all the time. I don't think most men are suckers. Even a real sucker will stop paying if they are not getting any benefit from paying. If you put all this together, the most reasonable thing a dating app could do to make money is actually try to provide good experiences. Of course, these days, it may be a bit much to assume that the management of any company actually cares more about making money than their pet causes.
That is also possible. But since most women don't pay, the ultimate objective would be to get more women on to improve the experience of the actual customers.
This never actually worked this way. Women are rarely ever the initiators, so what happened on Bumble is that women would say "hi" so that the man had the chance to actually initiate; if he didn't, nothing would happen.
The real reason women are on bumble at all isn't because they like the gimmick. Instead they just hope that men there are better than the ones on tinder.
>The real reason women are on bumble at all isn't because they like the gimmick. Instead they just hope that men there are better than the ones on tinder.
Nailed it... Maybe they are predisposed to think the guys are better because they would only feel like messaging exceptional guys anyway. But in general, they would really prefer guys to take all the risks.
Please explain, what do you mean by burden? To avoid me jumping to conclusions. You mean the heteronormative "burden" of the man shooting the first shot?
That's how they phrased it, but the underlying reason was that users weren't using the app as intended - those first moves quickly devolved into a token "hey".
It's a shame Bumble has changed. As a guy, I think even a token "hey" is good to know if they are at least interested in you.
The ratios are skewed so badly that women get at least an order of magnitude more likes that men on average, so having the woman at least indicating that they are marginally interested lets you know it's worth spending the effort on making the next move.
If you're an incredibly good looking guy, women will put some effort in, but for ordinary looking guys, the vast majority of women don't even bother to respond with an autoreply "sorry, not interested". They just ignore your message entirely, and there's only so many interesting and well-thought out first moves you can send based on something in someone's profile that you resonated with, only be be completely ignored, before you realise that it's all just an utter waste of time if you're not in that top 10% of guys.
To me, it seems that Bumble doesn't really know what it's lost by changing that behaviour, as it's now become just another Tinder.
>It's a shame Bumble has changed. As a guy, I think even a token "hey" is good to know if they are at least interested in you.
It would be nice but women are literally flooded with options. You should know they're interested if they match with you and have a conversation with you. At least, you get the same information as a "hey" from that. Bumble is just trying to promote actual dates with their paying customers who don't get a "hey" and scarcely get a match in the first place, because women aren't very interested in dating normal guys.
In my area a lot of women wouldn't respond either unless you had pushed the button that increases the match time, so it was match - wait for response - at 1 hour if you were really wanting to match extend match 24 hours, which then locks you in because you can only extend once per day, and then wait for response.
Sort of understandable because the stereotype goes that most men will right swipe on all and then filter upon match whereas women will filter before swipe.
I'm surprised that phenomenon wasn't called out virally just like men were dragged through internet streets in the mid 2010s with the rise of swiping-style app.
