And for those of us that use xmarks, note that the xmarks alpha support for chrom[e|ium] will NOT work with the 3.0 stable version of iron, but DOES work with the Iron 4.0 beta.
For the past ~2 months or so, Linux Chrome has worked really well with flash -- as good or better than Firefox. They seem to be running a windows version of flash -- or at least the few times flash has run into an endless loop and I have to kill it via top, the process name is "exe".
Update:
Flash still doesn't work perfectly -- as my trip to scribd just proved. For times like this, I just reopen the page in Firefox.
That explains a lot! I wondered how Chrome OS got the Linux build of Flash working without X11. I thought they might have a thin X11 lib in their window manager, but I guess they shoe-horned the Windows build into the Linux version of Chrome. Crafty.
Even though this is not true in this case, this wouldn't be unheard of. Google did exactly the same with Picasa, that is, the Linux port of Picasa is a modified version of the original Windows Picasa running on Wine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picasa#Linux
But the name contains the string .exe! Clearly that means Windows is being emulated.
(Note to people that think this is true; install f-spot on Linux some time. It's a C# application, and ends in .exe. Even though it has nothing to do with Windows, except that Microsoft spec'd C# and Microsoft makes Windows...)
It's not correct to say that Picasa is emulated using wine. Instead, it's a native Linux app that has been ported using WineLib, which reimplements a lot of the Windows API, but compiled to Linux. Instead of replacing API calls with the Linux equivalents, there's just an additional layer that redirect calls or implements them.
I've been running daily builds of Chrome and Chromium without flash issues. I don't update regularly though. My 'daily builds' are probably 1.5-2 months old. I'm on Ubuntu 9.04 32-bit though.
I noticed that detail when I was trying out Chromium a while back, and it still hasn't been fixed. It seems like a simple but basic security feature. I don't know what else isn't done yet, but it does make me worry. No guarantees that Firefox isn't doing similar things I'd object to, but I don't know about them, so for better or worse I have more confidence in it.
Every desktop environment that I'm familiar with (OSX, KDE, Gnome) has a built-in password manager to hook into, that stores the data encrypted and prompts the user for a master password in some configurable way. I'm guessing that if the OSX and Linux variations of Chrome get any traction, hooking into the password manager will probably be done.
I have no idea if Windows has a password manager, but I don't know why it wouldn't.
I've had a ton of tab crashes, tab freezes, slow downs, etc. But where Chrom(e|ium) shines is that you can generally just reload the tab and go. Worst case, quit and restart takes seconds.
I've never had anything like that. Chrome on my computer is, at worst, taking 5-10% CPU usage to maintain 10 tabs in 2 windows, and it doesn't slow anything else down. Perhaps your OS is the problem?
Basically, if you do a redirect (30x) then the referrer isn't set. This means that a number of things are broken. The referrer should be set, and is set in all other browsers.
For example, if someone clicks on a tinyurl link, which redirects to your website, you won't get info on where they came from. The referrer will be empty.
Bug was reported in feb, I'm not sure why it's not been fixed, since it's a pretty big bug.
I just called up my local development site which has a ".dev" domain (which is setup in /etc/hosts) in Chrome and it decided it didn't want to load up any JavaScript or CSS. Apparently you have to disable the phishing and malware protection from the options. Just in case anyone else has a similar setup.
Unfortunately, the chromium .deb pre-depends on a version of dpkg that is greater than the ones available on the xandros repositories for my little eeePC (it needs >= 1.14.00; repositories have 1.13.25). I'm sure the eee forums will have a solution to that, so I'll check there.
I know this isn't 'Chrome Support' - but any idea how I would get the scroll wheel to get working?
edit (i.e., have it be that actually clicking it yields the windows behavior of being in a 'scroll mode' - motioning it down will have me going down the page, instead of actually wheeling it down)
I've been using the Ubuntu Chromium PPA builds for the last two months and as far as I can see, it all works just fine. Granted, the Delicious plugin didn't start working until a few weeks ago and I haven't yet tried any other plugin, but the developer tools are very good and those are the majority of my Firefox plugins.
How do you get developer tools working? I'm using PPA builds as well, and I have no access to dev tools. Tried launching it with some flags and still no luck. Can't find documentation anywhere :/
To get to the firebug-ish dev tools, right click and select "Inspect Element", or pull down on the "Control" menu (top right) and you should see a Developer menu.
If you hook into the Google repo, the unstable Chrome builds have "Inspect Element", but the daily PPA builds of Chromium haven't for me. As I stated earlier though, I haven't updated them for a couple of months though.
Well, every US company has to follow US laws, which means exposing otherwise private records to law enforcement when required. The comment was saying nothing more than this.
Obviously you can't because you are doing something you think/know you aren't supposed to be doing.
In all reality however google is no more evil than telephone companies that allow the government to place wire taps on lines or datacenters allowing the government to take the private server your website is on.
Not necessarily correct. As Plato writes in the Crito:
"Reflect now, Socrates," the laws might say, "that if what we say is true, you are not treating us rightly by planning to do what you are planning. We have given you birth, nurtured you, educated you; we have given you and all other citizens a share of all the good things we could. Even so, by giving every Athenian the opportunity, once arrived at voting age and having observed the affairs of the city and us the laws, we proclaim that if we do not please him, he can take his possessions and go wherever he pleases. Not one of our laws raises any obstacle or forbids him, if he is not satisfied with us or the city, if one of you wants to go and live in a colony or wants to go anywhere else, and keep his property. We say, however, that whoever of you remains, when he sees how we conduct our trials and manage the city in other ways, has in fact come to an agreement with us to obey our instructions. We say that the one who disobeys does wrong in three ways, first because in us he disobeys his parents, also those who brought him up, and because, in spirit of his agreement, he neither obeys us nor, if we do something wrong, does he try to persuade us to do better. Yet we can only propose things, we do not issue savage commands to do whatever we order; we give two alternatives, either to persuade us or to do what we say. He does neighter. We do say that you too, Socrates, are open to those charges if you do what you have in mind; you would be among, not the least, but the most guilty of the Athenians." And if I should say "Why so?" they might well be right to upbraid me and say that I am among the Athenians who most definitely came to that agreement with them. They might well say: "Socrates, we have convincing proofs that we and the city were congenial to you. You would not have dwelt here most consistently of all the Athenians if the city had not been exceedingly pleasing to you. You have never left the city, even to see a festival, nor for any other reason except military service; you have never gone to stay in any other city, as people do; you have had no desire to know another city or other laws; we and our city satisfied you."
Civil disobedience is appropriate for individuals, not institutions.
Think of it this way: Ought it be the role of corporations to decide what laws are evil and what laws to follow, or should that it be the role of judges and elected officials to nullify and repeal them? I would rather put the responsibility (and blame) on the latter, not MBA's responding to short-term shareholder interests.
This is the same knee-jerk idiocy as to the Kindle's DRM issue: Amazon is not an institution equipped to decide on the morality of DRM. They're an institution designed to maximize shareholder value. Let the elected officials decide questions of morality, and let the corporations decide how to organize individuals into profit-maximizing groups.
Civil disobedience is appropriate for individuals, not institutions.
You say this, yet oddly you you seem to put little moral weight on individual actions.
If an institution collectively performs an act that is evil, and the law does not act to punish it, do you truly place no responsibility on the individuals who participated? An institution cannot act except via the individuals who comprise it. Diffusion of responsibility is anathema to a moral society; great evil can be performed on behalf of institutions by "good" people when it isn't their "responsibility".
The reality, of course, is that people usually rationalize their way out of being complicit in evil, and in any case are almost never held responsible for their participation, but I don't often hear people promoting that as a good thing!
Morality and law are not equivalent or coterminous for sure, but I'd hardly say they are orthogonal. Do you really think they are completely void of interdependency?
They're orthogonal in that both can vary independently of the other. Making an act legal or illegal does not alter the morality of the act, nor does the morality of an act in a given context change the legality of performing it.
To the extent that you can plot the morality vs. legality of acts on a cartesian plane it's nice to find most points near the diagonal, but that doesn't mean they aren't separate axes.
Doesn't the law tend to follow morality hysterically (ie with hysteresis). Also a weaker point might be that civil disobedience itself could be considered immoral [in some moralities].
I doubt Chrome (browser and OS) are going to become spyware platforms. Even if Google feels like data-mining you, it'll happen on the server side as you use Google search and your Google account and associated services.
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