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My burnout started right around 2020, just as the pandemic hit. I'm just now getting little spurts of energy here and there again. The past 2 years has been an absolute drag for me, personally. I wake up feeling tired, I manage to get a couple of productive hours into the day, but by 1pm I often feel so tired that it almost physically hurts to keep sitting up.

I haven't seen a doctor but I'm not sure if I'm experiencing depression, or very low testosterone, or something else.



If you are willing to take anti-depressants, definitely go.

low testosterone though, is something many men (including me) have, but practically no doctor is willing to treat. They have one enormous range of "normal" that is calculated including 80 year old men and 20 year old men in the same pool (even though testosterone levels plummet as you age), and if you aren't in the 90 year old man levels (even as a 30 year old) insanely low category they'll just tell you "you're normal" and won't do anything.

After 5 years of getting worse and worse I read something online about that, and even though my levels was right around 300 (I'm in my low 30s) the doc dismissed it. I found a doc who would treat it tho. I'm on a small dose of testosterone replacement therapy, and I am already feeling so much better I can't even believe it. It honestly fills me with rage the way the medical establishment failed me and continues to fail men in this.


Do you eat cheese? Can you cut cheese for 2 days and see whether there is a difference? I wonder whether the sudden fat makes one sleepy all the time.


It sounds stupid, but seriously dairy causes a lot of issues for people. I hit rock bottom several years ago and did an elimination diet and found a few things I need to avoid, but the biggest one is dairy.

If I accidentally eat some dairy, starting about 2 days later and lasting for a few days, I'll feel really terrible about myself and like there is no hope. Often times there's some suicidal thoughts in there too. Absolutely not worth it.


Same, I’ve often had suicidal thoughts since I live alone. And it may not just be living alone, the intensity of the thought is surprising.

I’ve always eaten yoghurt and mill everyday in quantity, and a little cheese works well, but it’s only when I eat a quantity of cheese that I stare in the void for hours with 99% of my neurons off - Could the liver turn “depression mode=on, burn all neurons” when saturated in fats?


Eric Adams, is that you?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/feb/08/cheese-is-li...

For real, I love dairy and cheese and I'll fucking mourn the day my doctor tells me to give this stuff up. It's coming. I'm not looking forward to it.

I still think Adams is a disgrace for the comparison tho.


I’m suspecting that a big lump of cheese makes me automatically noop for hours, as in, stare in the void, sad, only one or two neurons firing at a time, very slow thinking. The comment next to yours says the same.

Butter, milk and yoghurt (which I eat in quantity, all 3) don’t have this effect, so I’m just suggesting you eat other stuff for a few days, maybe French or Lebanese restaurants, or sushi. It would be logical, if true, that pizza eaters tend to be couch potatoes as well. If would be logical, if true, that I get depressed when I’m alone (it looks stupid but other people aren’t depressed in just 1 day alone), maybe I tend to have pasta-cheese when I’m alone, plus cheese before dessert, and bahm slowness and suicidal thoughts.

But I’m French and, like you, I couldn’t quit fromage - but maybe I should have various ones for taste, and not for quantity.


Digestive ability deteriorates under stress and usually snowballs into dietary sensitivities. The worst culprit for me was gluten.




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