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A few years ago I co-founded a standing desk company without any experience in real world products in general. The plan was to source desks and sell them to companies. How complicated could it be? Well, the freight company requires a lot of information about the destination building. The destination building require a lot of paperwork in a very specific format just to deliver something. The paperwork is always a little different. Then actual delivery need to be scheduled on the phone. Every time. The pallets don't fit in the elevator after all, so need men to move boxes. Someone need to dispose of the pallets. The building doesn't have large item disposal. To assemble 60 desks we need men, tools, floor-plan, access to the building, etc. Someone has to clean up the packaging material. Then of course one of the 60 boxes were dropped, now damaged and needs replacing. Sending one box is a different game than sending 60. Even if you know what you are doing it takes a lot of emails and phone calls to outfit an office with furniture, and somehow everyone wants to communicate over phone or email, so automation is impossible. And that's how my e-commerce company turned into a service business wiped out all my profits :) (edited for typos)


Your short tale reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyTf7y3ityk

In sincerity, I found that interesting. Lessons noted!


ricky explains legacy software https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6rGMNtXHgs


They have a lesson for everything.


I must admit, HN is the last place I expected to find a link to a Trailer Park Boys clip.


My interests are a tapestry... and don't get me started on Letterkenny (and how good it is).

Anyway, I figured it fit the subject. ;) Ricky's a natural born hacker.


If you're like my old boss, just tell the employees to assemble their own desks, and then wonder why all these developers who requested a standing desk, are still using their old sit down desks.


I'd be happy to assemble all of my office furniture if my company paid for it -- though paying $100+/hour engineers to do the work of a $15+ handyman seems like a bad deal for the company - especially when the guy that assembles desks all day will do it faster (and correctly).


Consider it a team-building exercise? Companies waste employee time in all sorts of other ways, so why not building desks?


We did exactly this where I'm an expensive consultant. The one who assembled his table the fastest won a prize. My workplace might be a little different but we also are responsible for moving the dishes in and out of the dishwasher. I'm happy to do it.


Tongue-in-cheek/devil's advocate reply: I wouldn't necessarily consider building furniture a very safe team building excercise, it may just have the opposite result ;-)

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/what-goes-through-every...


I'd be happy to manage my own desk procurement, including organizing the delivery and assembly, if my employer wanted to pay me for it - that's still paying an engineer for administrative work, but maybe less of it at least.


Just sayin, but in most areas that I've been where Engineers make $100+/hr, handymen make rather more than $15/hr.


As long as they would allow me to do it on company time it would be a nice distraction from work.


I gotta say, I sorta miss assembling my own computer on the first day of work. I don’t miss the bloody knuckles though.


Of course you can do it on company time. What other time is there?


A former boss of mine told the employees to assemble the furniture at the new location. It was fast and it looked good.

After a week the monitors started to fail, because the cable to the monitor was too tight, so when they moved the monitor, the contact on the back of the monitor broke.


That was tradition at the first company I joined: every new hire assembles his own Ikea desk, with help from his new colleagues - it was fun !


Ha, at my partner's work(large IT company in UK) they are not even allowed to move or adjust the height of their own desks, because it's a health and safety violation and if anything happened to them doing it the insurance wouldn't cover them. I think HR would get a heart attack at the thought of employees assembling their own desks.


Yea i always found this funny. I was not allowed to move a monitor in the office, but was racking 4u servers by myself in the datacenter. When i asked they claimed it was because the insurance for the monitor, not me, would not be covered if it was not the local IT guy who moved it.


I would love to do that.


> The destination building require a lot of paperwork in a very specific format just to deliver something. The paperwork is always a little different.

Automating this sounds like a business worth several million in annual revenue, easily.


Speakeasy, a former big ISP, presented at a Java users group one time about a logistics app they had written specifically to remind them when it was time to harass Covad about missing deadlines for wiring and circuit connections.

I’d had to deal with Covad before and so had my friend who used to own a mom and pop ISP. I thought the fact that someone wrote a management app just for them was funny and sad, brilliant and justified.

A few years later they sold... to Covad. D’OH!


The plan was to automate generating all the paperwork in a very specific format, with it always being a little different. How complicated could it be?

:)


Sounds like a mechanical turk:)


Sounds like the minimum level of automation that would work is full blown AGI + autonomous robots that could at least match humans in terms of skill and strength.


Nah, be creative. Think how Uber et al replaced the skilled taxi driver via a random human plus Google maps. (And that's a good thing!)




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