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Your first point is a deeper problem that goes far beyond economics. We do have a government corruption problem.

As for #2, the problem is that economic demand and economic activity means doing anything at all, including fixing environmental problems.

Imagine there's no growth. Why adopt solar power then, and who's going to pay for it since there'd be no investment capital? Nope, just run those coal burners forever. No need to upgrade if there's no growth.

The deflationary road leads to the dystopia portrayed in The Hunger Games: one or two massively advanced cloistered cities for the mega-rich, and vast feudal slave classes feeding them with coal and other should-be-obsolete things.



The deflationary road leads to the dystopia portrayed in The Hunger Games: one or two massively advanced cloistered cities for the mega-rich, and vast feudal slave classes feeding them with coal and other should-be-obsolete things.

Huh? That's what the inflationary road leads to. This should be obvious, inflation skims value off the top of everyone's savings and channels it to the ultra rich (or politically connected, aka ultra rich). Almost every society in history, over the past 4000 or so years has been weakened by inflation, not deflation.

As a counterpoint, the US, which had a pretty good net deflationary run for about 150 years, had a pretty significant social equalization (freeing the slaves) over that time period.

The "deflationary spiral" hypothetical is popular idea but it is not supported by any historical evidence whatsoever (conceding that it may be true), mostly because despots have had a really hard time keeping themselves from debasing the currency over history.

I suggest reading this for some broad historical perspective: http://www.amazon.com/The-Great-Wave-Revolutions-History/dp/...


Imagine there's no growth. Why adopt solar power then, and who's going to pay for it since there'd be no investment capital? Nope, just run those coal burners forever. No need to upgrade if there's no growth.

It's fallacious to argue that because there's no net growth in some economic indicator, say 'GDP', that there can't be growth in specific sectors.

Secondly, growth is not a measure of demand, especially as demand shifts. People value having clean skies, and breathable air. And there is also a obvious value in 'not having to dig in mines for your energy'. Depending on how you measure your economy (let's say we unbeknownst to us give a higher weight to miners who dig underground vs. laborers panel assembly factories in our metric), 'upgrading' to solar could incur a 'contraction' instead of 'growth'.




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