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I see you've never worked in a large organization... ;-)

Bullshit jobs are largely jobs that managers create and defend in order to expand their managerial fiefdoms. A manager's influence in an organization comes partially from how many people report to him or her. That's the incentive structure that creates many of the bullshit jobs.

There are also interpersonal issues in play. For instance, you or I might walk into a particular company and observe a dozen different processes that could be easily automated with off-the-shelf software but are currently being done by humans. We might say to the manager "Why don't you automate, you're wasting money?!". In some cases, the manager would reply that the people doing those jobs are valued employees, possibly even friends, and automating those processes would put them out of work and thus, the processes are not automated.

It is a fallacy to believe that businesses operate efficiently simply because there is a profit motive. Businesses are complex organizations made up of people, with all their failings and weaknesses (if you want to call them that). It is not necessary for a business to be perfectly efficient to survive, it is only necessary that its competitors be equally inefficient.



It is a fallacy to believe that businesses operate efficiently simply because there is a profit motive. Businesses are complex organizations made up of people, with all their failings and weaknesses (if you want to call them that). It is not necessary for a business to be perfectly efficient to survive, it is only necessary that its competitors be equally inefficient.

I like to point this out to anyone who says "well, a business wouldn't do it if it made them less efficient", eg the case of open floor plans for programmers: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7507280


Like it or not, money is the best way to determine whether such a job is "bullshit" or not. Limited resources are allocated, on the whole, where those controlling those financial resources see the best productivity as measured by profitability. You may not grasp why a job is worth paying for, but you're not the one putting the money up for it. If a manager grows his fiefdom but his managers don't see fitting payoff, he'll find himself no longer a manager and his fiefdom dismantled.

It's not perfect, but it's way better than any other system.


Even net negative jobs can bring enough money to someone to be worth keeping alive, so no, money payed for the job is not a measure if the job is bullshit or not, it's just a measure that someone finds it profitable.


>It is a fallacy to believe that businesses operate efficiently simply because there is a profit motive.

I think the purpose of this adage is that businesses operate more efficiently than government entities. Not with perfect efficiency.


This is also a fallacy - it's certainly possible for some government entity to be more efficient than some business.


>It is a fallacy to believe that businesses operate efficiently simply because there is a profit motive.

Operating more efficiently is exactly what is destroying jobs. Middle managers are an easy target but I fail to see how there are enough of them to move the needles.




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