Sometimes I think the whole point of college is, "If this person can bring themselves to complete pointless bullshit, then they can bring themselves to complete anything."

Which turns out to be bs in the end. Just about everyone does college and just about no one brings it upon themselves to do anything out of the ordinary afterward.

"Just about everyone does college"

Maybe just about everyone you know. But not in general.

At almost every company I call on, most of the good jobs are done by college graduates and most of the hourly jobs by non-graduates. The graduates have demonstrated before the first interview that they can take on a major project and FINISH IT.

Not a judgement. Just an observation. When it doubt, stick it out.

Are you implying a cause/effect relationship here?

And I believe the correct phrase is "when in doubt, pull it out." Man has that phrase saved me a few times:)

i must have failed english four or five times before i dropped out. doesn't help that i could have taught the teachers

24 i think (lost count) + almost electronics engineering BS + 100k debt. just dandy ^_^

i'm looking to return for physics/math soon, but i'm wondering if my time would be better served atm in another endeavor

"doesn't help that i could have taught the teachers"

You're right about that. Doesn't help a bit.

i don't worry about it :)

[edit]i like the "say in one tense, mean in all" declarative style (where the present is the "all tense,") if that makes any sense. it's sort of like functional programming