This is your assertion, not the current precedent.
I am objectively talking about the current precedent and what it states, not what my definition or my position is.
Do not confuse the two.
Under current precedent, the answer to your questions are "No, not everyone in the US has standing" and "Yes, if they keep it secret enough that you can't prove it, you are fucked", at least given what SCOTUS has said.
At least the latter question has been almost directly answered by SCOTUS. I may disagree, but that is the current law of the land.
Congress could, of course, change that (as could SCOTUS)
You're not talking objectively about current precedent. There isn't sufficient precedent on whether the definition of "surveilled" includes something like the recently revealed FISA order to draw the conclusions you have. Precedent can't have been set because the extent of the program wasn't previously revealed. It is literally unprecedented.
Anyway, I didn't ask what current precedent was, I asked what your position is.
"There isn't sufficient precedent on whether the definition of "surveilled" includes something like the recently revealed FISA order to draw the conclusions you have. "
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Actually, SCOTUS was pretty clear, see Clapper v. Amnesty International. If you can't prove they are surveilling you, you don't have standing.
I'm not sure where you get "precedent can't have been set". This is just wishful thinking. You are hoping they decide their previous precedent was dumb or distinguishable.
As for my position: To the degree a court is satisfied with that the leaked info shows a plaintiff has suffered constitutional injury, they will override state secrets privilege and grant them standing. That is what has happened so far. See Jewell vs. NSA
To the degree they don't already have the info, and the rest is properly classified (already held to be 'yes' many times), they won't.
That will be appealed by either side all the way up the Supreme Court.
There are likely enough votes to hear it, and at least right now likely enough votes to overrule/distinguish Clapper, but until that happens, you are stuck.
Clapper v. Amnesty International is not precedent for the constitutionality of the recently revealed surveillance. It's irrelevant now because surveillance is proven, not hypothetical. Besides, it was 5-4, hardly ironclad.
Furthermore, to the extent that Congress hid actual violations of the constitution behind secrecy laws, the judicial branch has failed in its duty to uphold the constitution. SCOTUS was wrong to deny standing. Protecting our constitutional rights shouldn't require breaking the law just to prove standing first. You seem incapable of expressing a position or opinion about what the courts should do, rather than what they will do or have done, so you'll undoubtedly disagree.
I am not incapable of expression a position, I just don't find it a useful exercise of anything in particular in this instance. You seem a bit annoyed at this, for reasons i can't understand.
If you don't want to know what they are likely to do, why bother asking me rather than anyone else on the street?
The only thing you'll discover is whatever personal beliefs i have about the subject. Since they don't really matter to what will happen, who cares?
It won't help anything. I'd rather be doing things to help than complaining about how the court is wrong on an internet site (no offense meant to you, really!), so I am.
Under current precedent, the answer to your questions are "No, not everyone in the US has standing" and "Yes, if they keep it secret enough that you can't prove it, you are fucked", at least given what SCOTUS has said.
At least the latter question has been almost directly answered by SCOTUS. I may disagree, but that is the current law of the land.
Congress could, of course, change that (as could SCOTUS)