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There is an argument.

but maybe you have an idea of how manual labor feels (people always do some of it) but no idea how this type of horror feels and what it does.



The alternatives in these kinds of villages in rural Jharkhand's tribal and red corridor are literally

1.) bit-piece agriculture work for the local landlord who will never pay salaries on time because he has the power

2.) migrate to the nearest big city (in this case Ranchi, Dhanbad, or Patna) and work at a factory for 12 hours a week with the exact same risks

3.) get married off

4.) join a Maoist outfit in order to surrender and get government rehabilitation benefits.

And all of this is assuming the men (and it's always men) who they are reporting to are not lecherous abusers which is a very real risk in these kinds of jobs for women in Ms Murmu's status.

Like out of all the bad options, this is the least bad one - especially in an area that was a warzone barely a decade ago.


> this is the least bad one

not that I wish this on anyone but you would change your mind very quickly if you had to do this job for just one hour. it can fuck you up for life


I don't think anyone is disputing that this job is terrible, it clearly is. The counter argument is that many other jobs are also terrible, and it's not clear whether you can really stack rank them and this one is at the bottom of the pole.


The counter counter argument is that we all talking here know what manual job or not getting paid feels like. But we don't know what it does to you if you have a job where you must watch humans hurt/torture/rape other humans day in day out.

we know what work feels like. Maybe it's better maybe it's worse. But we don't know personally and have no intuition about THIS kind of stuff.


I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here. Am I just too old? What do you mean, people on this forum have no intuition about what watching gore videos online is like? About watching hours of ordinary porn (as the article also mentioned)?

That's more likely to be within the experience of a HackerNews user than serious manual labor.


I mean literally what I wrote.

> people on this forum have no intuition about what watching gore videos online is like

as a job day in day out no they don't

(also abuse is not gore which can be consensual)

(also HN is mostly men aka people who statistically are performers of abuse not receivers of abuse so adjust accordingly)


I guarantee you approximately nothing on LiveLeak was consensual. Consensual cartel executions?

Men are more likely to be victims of violent crime than women. Adjust according to what?


I am replying to the term "gore" which means violence and violence could in rare cases be consensual,

> according to what?

to the fact that men are more likely to be perpetrators:)


So can working in the unorganized sector in the heart of the Red Corridor. Like this is literally one of the least developed parts of one of the least developed states in India.

A tribal woman like Murmu who is clearly living in the Red Corridor districts (based on surname and geographic location) doesn't have any better choice.

Yes content moderation introduces you to horrid content, but the alternatives give the very real risk of physical and sexual violence.


This is utterly ridiculous. The majority of teens I knew watched a few hours of LiveLeak at some point and turned out fine.


a few hours! Watching it for 40+ hours a week for months on end is going to fuck you up more than a casual perusal of a shock website.


Yeah and you for sure know what went through all of their heads.

If a kid enjoys it it's a very big red flag. If a kid is horrified by it (as I was) even if pretending to be cool in front of peers, then there you have your answer as to what it must feel to do it every day 9 to 7.


Lots of people just aren't that bothered by gore videos and they are well-adjusted members of society, I dunno what to tell you.


> Lots of people just aren't that bothered by gore videos

and here again you are alluding to that access you have to what goes on in other people's heads. although of course "lots of" is relative. i'd say 0.01% of population is lots enough in this case.

> they are well-adjusted members of society

a psycho can function just great in society. maybe this work is great for a psycho. however, majority of people aren't that.

> I dunno what to tell you.

right back at ya buddy




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