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EU grifting is so much worse than even the most brazen Trumpian crypto pump n' dump.

Geniunely repugnant. Atleast the Trump admin has the decency to pump everyones 401k...

I'm trying to figure out why it bothers me so much. I think its because the EU are such unbelievable losers in everything they do. they can't even grift, thats how useless they are. they can't even steal properly. its so undignified, and offensive to the senses.



Please don't post ragey flamebait like this on HN. We're trying for something different here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


Wouldn't go that far. EU policymakers have good intentions, I believe - but ultimately are products of their environment and cultural inclination.

The EU is such a bizarre place because they treat capital and entrepreneurs with such massive distrust, but never really bothered getting rid of the quasi-static entrenched hierarchies from feudalism? Like I'll go to the UK or France and there will just be massive swathes of land owned by the nobility or 'former' nobility? Maybe start there but let your high-value human capital earn a good wage?


You are wrong in that you think the hierarchies stem specifically from feudalism, but you are absolutely correct in that these hierarchies exist and are deeply entrenched. Sweden and Germany have one of the lowest percentages of self-made vs. inherited fortunes in the western world. Actually some tax policies in the US enable much more upward mobility, such as real estate taxation and 401k-like vehicles.


The problem in UK cities has nothing to do with feudalism. The massive lands most of those big land owners own isn't really worth that much. The really valuable land around cities is locked up by 1960s land use and building regulation. You have incredibly valuable land not developed because it has to be 'green' but its not some ancient woodland, rather its just a bunch of grass next to a highway.

Those 1960s regulation have a 1000x larger effect then any land owners owning a bunch of unproductive farmland or highlands.

Not to say there are no issues with large land owners, but its nowhere near anywhere close to being the issue with housing prices and living cost.


> France and there will just be massive swathes of land owned by the nobility or 'former' nobility

Yeah, no, this isn't even remotely true.


will cede that, you're right for France.


You two should seek help. These comments are unhinged and bordering on delusional.


Please don't post swipes like this on HN, or reply to a bad thread with more bad comments. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


And your comment is just a totally normal way of engaging with strangers on the internet :)


Tbf, he's kinda on point.

The EU Parlament has it's issues, and it's atrocious how corrupt politicians like e.g. von der Laien fail upwards into leadership roles there, but they're both massively exaggerating the issues to a degree that it's hard to call the stated opinions anything but unhinged.

Its kinda like calling a Chihuahua "apex predator". completely out of touch with reality.


Okay, can you please quote me directly what I said that is unhinged/delusional or explain why he is on point that I should seek help? I think you have lost sight of that being an incredibly rude thing to say to someone, but maybe not?


Feudalism is a problem in some corners, but it's mostly a UK thing. The US has its own almost-feudalism like ownership structure (see 1980s to now wealth distribution), which is problematic, but it's not bad enough (yet) to halt the US economy.


And to add to your point: The UK isn't even part of the EU...


okay, fair enough - i do sometimes have wistful 'delusions' where the UK is still in the EU


I mean, yeah, his post seems like a good faith analysis without any insults.




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