No, you simply have provided zero evidence of protestors being violent. You have one statement from one official accusing them of violence, and not one piece of evidence anywhere showing them actually being violent, in either Chicago or Portland.
You're doing what the president is doing: making statements entirely detached from reality without evidence.
If what you say is true you should have no problem supporting 24/7 webcams streaming direct to the internet pointing right at the areas in question. Then you can provide all the proof you need to discount the government narrative and prove yours.
I look forward to seeing those streams. Good luck!
> you can provide all the proof you need to discount the government narrative and prove yours
That's backwards: The burden of proof is on the government to show that the prerequisites have been met for invoking the Insurrection Act of 1807 [0] or the Alien Enemy Act of 1798 [1] or the International Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977 [2]. To be sure, the president gets some deference, but s/he doesn't have absolute discretion.
Well you specifically asked for evidence of violence in Chicago and you received it. Now you try to minimize it and deflect—just like I said you would. So predictable.
The propaganda around this topic is definitely a two sided coin. Thanks for demonstrating it for all to see.
I don't think you're in a good rhetorical position to high-horse anything; to me, your horse died on the hill of "raised fist means violence" analysis of Katrina Thompson's statement about the Broadview protests.
Neither of you are going to convince each other of anything, so I'm not sure what's gained by handwavy argument and generalizations at this point. Facts have some utility, but the analysis is just tedious.
My horse is still very alive, it just walked away from your ridiculous spin. You definitely didn’t convince me I was wrong or should even give it another thought, you only further convinced me that I am right about the minimization and spin that people will put on the topic.
BTW a few comments above this one the other commenter mentioned that the mayor was “wrong”. So even they aren’t buying your spin of her comments, and they are apparently aligned with you in every other way.
Anybody dunking on Katrina Thompson is telling on themselves, but you made up something she absolutely didn't say and then stuck with it over multiple days.
You are an absolute riot. Do you actually live in this reality? Perhaps a couple of parallel worlds have their wires crossed with the nexus being this HN thread.
To summarize:
I never dunked on that mayor. I literally quoted the mayor’s exact statement. I linked directly to that statement on her government website. Obviously if you and the other commenter have exact opposite interpretations of what she said, the most accurate thing I could say is that the statement was inarticulate because it illicit opposite meanings based on the reader.
You're not reading carefully. You alluded to someone else criticizing Katrina Thompson. I don't think anybody should be criticizing Katrina Thompson. I wasn't imputing that view to you. And: please write more civilly.
You can complain about my writing not being civil when you stop the outright (apparently intentional) lying about what I have said. I posted a statement made by the mayor. I have an interpretation of it which results in an opinion. The PBS affiliate had an interpretation of it. The other commenter had an interpretation and opinion of it. You have an interpretation and opinion of it.
Just because people don’t agree with you doesn’t mean they are lying. Just because someone is critical of a mayor that you believe is beyond criticism doesn’t mean that the mayor can’t be criticized.
We don't disagree about what you said. You claimed protesters in Broadview were violent, and cited as support Katrina Thompson, who absolutely has not accused the Broadview protesters of violence. There's no wiggle room on that. I live next to Broadview.
You're doing what the president is doing: making statements entirely detached from reality without evidence.