I've been riding Waymo for years in San Francisco.

10 years ago, people were predicting that deep learning will change everything. And it did.

Why just use one example (VR) and apply it to everything? Even then, a good portion of people did not think VR would be everywhere by now.

> I've been riding Waymo for years in San Francisco.

Fully autonomous in select defined cities owned by big corps is probably a reasonable expectation.

Fully autonomous in the hands of an owner applied to all driving conditions and working reliably is likely still a distant goal.

Baidu Apollo Go is conpletes millions of rides a year as well, with expansions into Europe in the Middle East. In China they've been active for a long time - during COVID they were making autonomous deliveries.

It is odd how many people don't realize how developed self-driving taxis are.

The future isn't evenly distributed.

I think most people will consider self driving tech to be a thing when it's as widespread as TVs were, 20 years after their introduction.

TV tech was ready, it just wasn't cheap enough. Self Driving is not wide spread not because of cost issue though. It is still not quite good enough for universal usage. Give it another 10 years I think we should be close, especially in places like Japan.

And outside of a few major cities with relatively good weather, self driving is non existent

It did flop, but still a hefty loaf of money was sliced off in the process.

Those with the real vested interest don't care if that flops, while zealous worshippers to the next brand new disruptive tech are just a free vehicle to that end.

VR is great industrial tech and bad consumer tech. It’s too isolating for consumers.