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Civilizations that think this way get conquered by ones that don't, and afterwards, nobody much cares what they thought.


If we're talking about actual technological innovation, then yes perhaps.

In this case we're talking about social media 'innovation' though. The science and art of getting a population highly addicted to doom scrolling. I'm not sure if that will help said population outcompete the other guys.


we are being conquered by google and facebook already. them leaving would be the exact opposite.


Any civilization that calls its citizens making a product choice "conquest" is terminally coddled and isn't going to make it through the century to come.


which choice are you talking about? there is no choice. there are no alternatives to facebook if all your friends are on it. there is no alternative to youtube, and for other products, the alternatives take a lot of effort. (hence despite the existence of linux, there is no choice to windows for example, because it comes preinstalled on every device. same for google infested android)

this is even worse in smaller and in less developed countries. they are most certainly being conquered.

and i don't get what you are trying to say. i am terminally coddled because i view google and facebook as conquerors? what does that even mean?


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This seems like a bit of an empty moral panic/slippery slope appeal. As a general rule, it could go either way: civilizations can also collapse from not-enough-regulation, not-enough-rule of law, oligarchic capture, or even just become a megacorporation dystopia without collapsing for a long time, maybe ever. Better to critique the specific case, if you have any objections.


You think the US is going to invade Europe and enforce a techno-capitalist oligarchy on it?


Of course not. I do think that the US might get bored of defending a continent that refuses to lift a finger to defend itself --- or put much effort into anything that isn't regulating, censoring, or fining someone, and then someone else will invade Europe and impose a techno-capitalist oligarchy or worse on it.


There is serious talk in the US now that democracy is a failed system and the country would be better run by a bunch of self-selected billionaires in perpetuity.

The election choices are between some-one is clearly senile, or somebody who clearly has no substance and, well, Trump.

Other recent candidates include sons of previous presidents, or wives of previous presidents.

And you are worried about Europe.

Europe is worried about Europe - but in the context of catching what the US has via dark money flowing through tech platforms driving politics.




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