You do understand that your anecdote is an example of confirmation bias, right? You claim is tantamount to saying you ran an AA group and only heard bad things about alcohol. No shit!? Next you'll start a sports gambling recovery group and let us know there's nothing good about sports.
Porn might not be good but your anecdote is a long way from evidence. What you've seen is a tautology; the people who DON'T have a problem aren't showing up in your program.
I think this is your problem. I didn't make a claim. I provided a personal story about running these groups and how objectification of women was a common result of a porn addiction (something the individual being interviewed mentioned). I was simply providing some anecdotal evidence that agreed with the interviewee.
I wouldn't make an absolute statement about my experiences for the same reasons you're using to criticizing my comment.
His word choice and tone are unfortunate, as he did put a few words in your mouth you didn’t say. But… I agree with his underlying point. As other siblings have pointed out, this certainly seems like selection bias.
> Never once have I found a single story that ended well.
That's the claim you made. Every story ends badly because you've never seen one end well at your recovery program.
You've never seen a story end well because by the time you're involved everything has already gone wrong. You're like a fire fighter claiming homes are dangerous because you always see them on fire.
The people who don't have a problem aren't coming to your program.
Genuinely interested: when people say "video games make people violent, just look at this violent person who plays violent video games". Many times I don't particularly see a causation, and I know a ton of people who play video games and aren't violent.
Are we sure that porn "molds" people like that? Or is it a claim similar to the ones against video games?
I'm sure there have been studies done, but I don't know them off the top of my head. I'm speaking from personal experience here (since apparently I need to spell this out in my comments): I would say that violent video games _may_ play a role in someone who then proceeds to go down the path of "violence porn." But usually, there are other factors drawing them to that place (i.e., bullying).
Likewise, I've often seen porn used as a tool to deal with other subsurface issues. The high of the hormone rush brings temporary relief, but like most highs, it requires more and more for it to stay the same.
Interestingly, no one in any of the comments so far has provided any anecdotal experiences of porn resulting in the opposite effect on someone. I don't doubt it happens, but it seems more people are focused on attacking my statement rather than engaging in a conversation. I'm happy to hear more stories.
I didn't mean to attack your original statement: you work with people who have issues caused by porn, and I completely realise it does exist. Just like there are people addicted to video games.
I am kind of interested in the causality. The featured article says that "porn has molded the world we live in", which is much wider than saying "some people get addicted to porn and it is bad", right?
Yeah, I agree that the statement, "porn has molded the world we live in," is problematic. Based on my experience, it certainly does affect a subset of the world negatively, but how much do those people go on to shape the world? It's plausible some do, but without more evidence, it's hard to discern by _how much_.
Porn might not be good but your anecdote is a long way from evidence. What you've seen is a tautology; the people who DON'T have a problem aren't showing up in your program.