Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

He is suggesting the opposite. Attacking every company run by someone you disagree with politically is a recipe for not being able to participate in society in any meaningful way. Musk's views are quite normal and are shared by people involved in every company and institution out there. Are you going to boycott them all?

These boycotts only work as isolated, selective outrage. It is the same with countries. If you wanted to be consistent, you'd have to boycott every country in the world. They all do some bad things.



Absolutely, it is impossible to draw a line based on, say how evil the person is or how much they are trying to spread the evil. Because anyone can be evil, we simply cannot take action against anyone!


Throwing around Nazi salutes is normal? Are you writing this from an evil mirror universe?


You, and most who believe that, are ignoring the part where he said something like, "My heart goes out to you!" as he threw his hand from his heart out to the people in the crowd.


You're already misremembering what actually happened - that he says that after two vigorous salutes.


And how does that change anything?


it ends up reading to me as an afterthought or half-hearted attempt to explain away the salute. a salute which was given with a grimace and a violent force, twice; it doesn't match the warmth of a message of 'my heart goes out to you.'

when you say 'my heart goes out to you' your hands typically stay on your heart ( which he seemed to know to do then ) or move very slightly directly out, not diagonally and up.


If I use a word to describe you, and you took it as an insult, but later found out the word was a compliment, is my description of you still an insult?


If someone who increasingly looks like a nazi sympathizer does a nazi salute and says 'my heart goes out to you,' it's still a nazi salute.

not to mention the out and out white supremacists thought that's what it was.

i would probably view this more charitably in his favor if he just apologized or clarified like a mature person. instead he doubles down on 'corrupt' media, calls to defund wikipedia, and makes juvenile nazi jokes.


No one is ignoring that, and it's bizarre seeing people defend Musk in such a ridiculous fashion.

The plausible deniability angle would hit a little better if Musk hadn't also been endorsing a number of Nazi-adjacent parties and views, pushed literal white nationalist views repeatedly (which he has been doing for years -- he isn't concerned about birth rates, he is literally only worried about white birth rates while he runs his creepy birthing farm down in Texas, and that's aside from his endless "empathy is our weakness" attacks on migrants), and most recently literally excused Hitler on the basis that really it's the public servants who are to blame.

It's quite incredible really. If the guy wasn't already absolutely soaked with extremely far right rhetoric and beliefs -- save the absurd "oh he's a centrist" nonsense that zero people believe if they have any functioning grey matter at all -- it might have been excusable as something that just looked concerning.


He knows how to do "My heart goes out to you". The Nazi salute was intentional:

https://loops.video/v/65yj8nROYv


>> Musk's views are quite normal

Citation please


a majority of the American people voted for the guy who explicitly and repeatedly campaigned with him. that's a pretty solid citation.


I wouldn't be so quick to say a 'majority of the American people.' The 'majority' that voted for him is only about 31% of the voting-eligible population.


right. with the availability of early voting, that implies that most of that 69% didn't care enough either way. it was a pretty close election, probably with a slight edge going in for Harris, so that would tend to cause more would-be Trump voters to stay home.

in other words, there are plenty of valid complaints, but "abnormal" or denying a clear democratic mandate aren't any of them.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: