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This belief is flat out wrong and is completely oblivious to the current geopolitical landscape. US is likely to get sanctioned by its prior allies in the near future and you need to wake up.


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I think losing the European market will do a lot of harm to the US, especially their precious tech giants, plus they'll lose creditors. The $$$ won't be what it used to be, and once that falls...

But the whole point of Musk and Thiel is for the USA to lose its power. You can't coerce large institutions, but you can do that with small ones, so they want decentralization, small zones. There they can buy power, and do whatever they please. For this, the federal USA has to be upended.


> The US is an actual sovereign state, with democratic leaders, acting on behalf of their constituencies.

At no point in history has this ever been less true.


What are you implying? We had an election. People voted. What am I missing?


Did you vote for alienating all your allies?

Increase tariffs even more on allies than your supposed enemies?

Massively increasing cost of living in US?

Sending European and South Korean defense stocks through the roof while tanking US defense stocks?

Eliminating free travel through Canada to Alaska?

Becoming the laughing stock of every stand up show around the globe?

Yes, I know you voted for Trump.

Do you think you got what voted for?


> Do you think you got what voted for?

They want whatever Trump tells them to want. Just look at how Zelensky was polling amongst Republicans before and after the “incident”.

Specific policies are irrelevant, they’ll just pretend that they always supported all of the random shit Trump does from the very beginning (even though nobody knew that hose options ever existed).


Who are these allies you speak of? Mexico has been facilitating an invasion and I don’t really care about the drugs - people should have the right to do what they want - but that too has been killing too many Americans. Or Canada who has been tariffing our goods and then when invited to actually join the team… rebuffs our welcome with disdain?!

Also, I’m not really a big fan of the US’s military-industrial complex. They should be put in check.

The thing is you’re very confident in things you do not know. It’s much better to just not know. If you don’t understand, then maybe the other guy isn’t wrong… maybe you just don’t understand and that’s okay.


Thing is, you can democratically vote for anti-democratic people/parties. Just because the process is democractic, doesn't mean that the end result will be democractic. We have the same discussion here in Germany with the right-wing party AfD.




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