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Their GDP is bigger, their army protects us - so at any point in time Trump can say "I am altering the deal, pray I don't alter it further" and we have to suck it up.


Do you really think that Europe cannot defend itself against Russia, a country with a GDP less than that of only Italy, whose military is currently so destroyed that it relies on North Korea to defend its own borders?

Under Trump, I believe it is already priced-in that he would do nothing to uphold his NATO obligations. That ship has already sailed in sober-minded circles.


>Do you really think that Europe cannot defend itself against Russia, a country with a GDP less than that of only Italy, whose military is currently so destroyed that it relies on North Korea to defend its own borders?

Doesn't matter what i think. This what all of western european leaders say. Do you say that our governments would lie to us?


Can you share a link of Western European leaders saying that they are not able to defend ourselves without the USA? I am honestly unaware of any such public statement. This smells a lot like RU propaganda.

However, it would be cool if even more countries started to spend their NATO required GDP on defense.




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