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He's right. The defining quality of a charitable act is that you help people who need help, not that you don't make money from it. E.g. https://www.google.com/search?q=define%20charitable


Would you consider Google or Facebook a charity, then?

Or the person at a sports event selling me beer? Are they a charity? I do want beer, and they are facilitating that...for $10/glass.

(I think that most people would not consider the beer vendor a charity, and since English is a living language, I think that the cited definition is incomplete)


Obviously I wouldn't call either "a charity" because charity used in that (comparatively recent sense) means a nonprofit.

Crazygringo's point is that there is a much older and more important sense of "charity," which simply means helping those in need. In that sense, Google is a very charitable project. In fact it is hard to imagine a nonprofit doing a better job.


See the 8 levels of charity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tzedakah#In_rabbinical_literatu...

Starting a business with someone is considered the highest level.


Interest free loan.


Yes, that is one of the options. But not the only one - starting a business with someone or finding them is job is considered just as good.

However, I'm not sure that providing someone with a service would qualify though.


He is claiming a business is a charity to its customers.


Not a charity, but generates huge consumer surplus (i.e. makes my life better by a lot more than they cost).

If Google didn't exist, my life would probably be $20k/yr worse due to search, $5-10k for maps, and $3k/yr worse due to Reader. Maybe $500/yr for News. Google Plus not existing would make my life better (since people who post would post on fb instead, where I'd actually read them).


I dunno about Google's definition, but Merriam-Webster's makes it pretty clear that "charitable" involves giving, not making a mutually beneficial exchange as one does in the marketplace: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/charitable

As does Dictionary.com's: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/charitable

And Wiktionary's: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/charitable


> building any company is a charitable act

This is a Randian and ultimately vapid definition of charity. I am all for capitalism but let's not get crazy.

Edit: Capitalism is the opposite of charity because you earn your keep. This is always preferable for both parties IMO.




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