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I'm not following. You're saying people who spread fecal matter on their phones don't wash it off their phones? That seems hard to believe, if for no other reason that the smell would be repulsive.


Bacteria in the invisible droplets from flushing the toilet alone is plenty enough to contaminate your smartphone, big-time.

If say you've the highly contagious and all-to-common Noro virus, and even if you've washed your hands thoroughly and then touch your contaminated smartphone you'll go on to contaminate almost every surface you touch, food and everything else.

Why don't people still understand this given that it's had such huge airing in recent years (as it's such a significant problem on cruise ships)?

That people still don't is the reason why medical and health authorities should be much more proactive in this area.


But the bacteria isn't only getting on your phone. It's getting on your clothes and skin and other parts of you that you also come into contact with.


Check the YouTube video and my longer comment below.


Do you believe that people should only wash their hands after using the bathroom if there are visibly feces on the hands?


I know that comment is provocation and I should ignore it, but I'll take the opportunity to say that if people exercised a little more hygiene and washed their hands more frequently—especially when leaving the bathroom whether they've feces on them or not—then we'd have considerably fewer cases of gastroenteritis and other communicable diseases in the community. You don't have to believe me, there are thousands of authoritative references on the net and elsewhere that attest to that.

I say that not as an obsessive hand-washer or an anti-germ-freak like Howard Hughes but because it's just commonsense. It also comes from being taught as a child both by my parents and at school to wash my hands before eating food and to be hygienic around food preparation such as washing fruit before eating it. That early training has meant that if say I were to sit at the dinner table without washing my hands I'd have a feeling of being dirty and have the urge to wash them.

I'm not alone, many others have similar a experience for the same reason. That said, I suspect the percentage ought to be much higher than it actually is (simple observation tells me that).

Again, I'm careful but not obsessive about hygiene and I like most others have occasional minor lapses such as eating an apple or picking strawberries from a punnet without first washing them. Nevertheless, I'm aware of the fact and feel somewhat guilty for not having done so.

Similarly, I'm always aware of the many almost futile practices people adopt in the name of hygiene. For example, the commonplace and token-like habit of shop assistants with disposable gloves on preparing say bread rolls and then handling money especially so notes (which are particularly dirty and germ-laden) and not changing to a new pair before the next customer (the same can be said about them handling their smartphones at the same time).

Long gone are coins with high silver content that were in part self-cleansing (Ag has strong antimicrobial properties).

BTW, if one takes the effort to wipe one's phone with a tissue with a few drops of ethanol (or rubbing alcohol—isopropanol for those in the US) on it then it serves a dual purpose, greasy fingerprints are removed and one's screen is clean—and the alcohol kills most of the microbes.


IMO westerners are becoming much dirtier and more careless in this regard, and in general with the careless spreading of disease. The exceptions just point out the rule that people constantly go places sick. Last Fall my family fell ill almost every time we went to church.


Right, I agree with you. I'm old enough to have noted the shift towards being more careless/less hygienic. I wonder why. You mention Westerners, well I'd probably agree with that too (but that's a trivial sample of two—a proper survey is needed). By contrast, when in Japan I noticed many, many instances of food preparation to be particularly hygienic.

It's interesting to note I purchased a Vietnamese-style bread roll for lunch today (presumably the owners were originally from Vietnam), and noticed the woman serving me had only one protective glove on—on her right hand. What was particularly noticeable was that she prepared the roll with her gloved hand and put it in a new paper bag without her other glove-less hand touching anything (tongs acted as her second set of fingers). At the cash-register I handed her a $50 note and rather clumsily with her left hand she deposited my note and returned notes and coins as change without using her gloved hand at all. Clearly, she was very conscious of hygiene. Why her and rarely others? Incidentally it was a small family-owned shop so the woman wasn't just acting out the hygiene requirements of say large chains like McDonald's.

Moreover, as COVID has diminished I've noticed very few now wear masks but the vast percentage that still do are Asians (BTW, I'm in Australia which is a mixture of every nationality).

Take from that what you will.



"fecal matter" here is not nuggets of poop smeared on surfaces. It's germs. You generally don't see, smell, or taste them but they can definitely make you sick.




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