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I know someone who has lost about 60lbs. The reaction of most people is 'what pill did you take'. They find out it is basically no sugar and limited amounts of food with some mild exercise. Pretty much every one of them is 'thats hard' and do not do it. And frankly it is hard. Like 95% of a grocery store has way to much of what you need for your daily intake in some form or another. It is that 5% you have to dig thru the whole mountain of crap to find. Then once you find it hope like hell the manufacture does not stop selling it. Or enjoy making everything from scratch (even that is a pain).

I would not jump on that current pill yet. Wait and see. There are probably serious side effects that we mere plebes do not get to find out about yet (that is for 20 years from now). Like what is the side effects when you stop taking it? What if your dose is too high/low? What is the long term usage like for other parts of the body?



GLP-1 agonists have already been marketed for 20 years. If there were effects, we'd have seen them by now.


Sharon Osbourne almost died, and I've read about enough people having serious problems on them including gastroparesis and bowel obstruction.


> "Osbourne said when she first began using the drug she felt nauseous for two to three weeks." > “You don’t throw up physically, but you’ve got that feeling,” she said. > She was also very thirsty and did not want to eat.

No, it doesn't appear that some famous person almost died. The drug seemed to be effective for her. She noticed some mild nausea - she even said she didn't throw up. That's mild nausea. She was thirsty - this makes sense. Food contains water, so she was probably dehydrated which contributes to the nausea. She should have drank more water. Finally, she did not want to eat. That is the intended effect of the drug. Sounds like it did exactly what it was designed to do.

Yes, gastroparesis can happen. This is not a shocker, as GLP-1 agonists affect the rate of gastric emptying. Gastroparesis is ... a slowing of gastric emptying. 750 out of nearly 150,000 GLP-1 patients experienced gastroparesis. This is about double the incidence in the general population. In very rare cases of gastroparesis you can experience blockages, but that is very much the exception, not the rule. Even so, this is why it's important to meet regularly with your doctor, discuss how you're feeling while on the drug, and get medical attention if you discover you're not shitting and normal methods don't improve things.

There are many useful, common drugs that have side effects that seem scary but are rare. ACE inhibitors are wonderful, well-tolerated drugs for controlling blood pressure, but long term use can cause kidney issues in very rare cases. Monitoring potassium levels allows for this side effect to be controlled well before kidney damage results.


Let me quote the OP:

> If there were effects, we'd have seen them by now.

You just authored a screed in response to me pointing out that there are effects.

Sharon Osbourne didn't just have mild nausea she now claims she can't put back the weight she lost that she didn't intend to lose.

> Gastroparesis is ... a slowing of gastric emptying.

I can't help but point out the syntax choice of internet snobbery. I'm not sure when people started sprinkling ellipses for dramatic effect because they seem to think it makes them authoritative but I think it's worth highlighting since it's such a reliable heuristic for internet troll.


? All I can find are a bunch of articles about one or more interviews she gave where she complained it made her too skinny (if you’re on it for weight loss rather than diabetes, you can simply adjust the dose down if you’re finding it too effective), nothing about almost dying.


> “I’m too gaunt and I can’t put any weight on. I want to, because I feel I’m too skinny,” she went on before warning people, “Be careful what you wish for.”

She abruptly stopped after losing much more than she wanted to lose.

She looks ill frankly.




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