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Textmate and Espresso and all other visual editors don't compare to Vim/Emacs.

Sure Textmate may have some keybindings, but you can't use Textmate while ssh'd to a remote server.



Yes you can. There have been stable user-level filesystem drivers for years for Linux, Mac and Windows.

Also Textmate / eText / gedit with gedit plugins have:

* Richer interfaces (eg, code folding on out of the box)

* Better discoverability (eg, you can stumble upon how to change your tab width faster in these apps than you can using vimtutor)

* Easier customization (ever tried writing a vi syntax schema)?


Better discoverability

This is a big overlooked weakness of both Emacs and Vi(m). After about five years of using Vi I switched to a friendlier editor, NEdit; within a couple months, I was better at using NEdit than I was at Vi, mainly because of discoverability. I then used (X)Emacs for a couple of years (mainly for Python programming, though the original motivation was learning Lisp), and found it rather opaque. Now I use TextMate, and I've had the same basic experience as with NEdit.




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