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Ah. That’s really inappropriate for a technical document.


Unnecessary politics in certain tech spheres is still a norm.

For example, here's GNOME the desktop being concerned about climate change:

https://discourse.gnome.org/t/question-to-candidates-the-boa...


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> We're all gonna stop using a tool because they offhand mentioned something we don't agree with?

No. Well, I'm not, anyway - despite my skin in the game (https://zahlman.github.io/politics/the-psf/2024/07/31/an-ope...). But I am going to offer harsh criticism of those who abuse their platforms.

This sort of thing is nothing new in Python circles. It notably led to Jack Diederich's resignation from the PSF in June 2020 (https://discuss.python.org/t/the-psf-should-be-less-politica...) and may have contributed to the mass exodus of core devs in November 2020.

> why is everyone acting like a baby? Just move on. Who cares. Python is a language, who gives a fuck

My understanding is that a higher standard of discourse is expected on HN.

Also, I rather suspect your tone would be different if you didn't happen to agree with the message. Please consider that such bias is not in keeping with the spirit of the free exchange of ideas or the core principles of open source.

> You're telling me y'all ACTUALLY found this webpage and scrolled through it organically?

Yes. This page is the official, primary means by which the Python team announces a new release of Python. That's kind of a big deal.


A programming language is a tool. It should not have an official stance on political issues, whether you agree with it or not.


It doesn't have an official stance, you guys are just making assumptions and performing hyperbole for your own outrage.

Did they endorse the DNC and I missed it? No, they didn't. Seriously, again - come oooooon.


>Did they endorse the DNC and I missed it?

They did endorse BLM (the organization, along with its very specific message which is not related to the business of writing code). You seem to have missed the link I previously fed you:

https://discuss.python.org/t/the-psf-should-be-less-politica...

Which was in reference to:

https://x.com/ThePSF/status/1267591714925133825


Would you feel the same way if the message was "make America great again"?

And yes I did remove python from a big private repo and will argue against it at work when the question arises.


What will you replace it with?


in my case: c++

In the more general cases: No idea


Oh come on guys, this is silly. We're all gonna stop using a tool because they offhand mentioned something we don't agree with? I mean, these tools are developed by people - people have opinions.

I understand politics is very divisive, but why is everyone acting like a baby? Just move on. Who cares. Python is a language, who gives a fuck they included a meme about it's OK to be White? I'm convinced nobody even found this meme organically anyway, rather one person found it and then sent it around to all their like-minded friends so they can sit around and point and laugh and complain together. You're telling me y'all ACTUALLY found this webpage and scrolled through it organically? Come oooooon.


It seems like the point is, you can see the same issue in very different ways. Did you read it from the bottom to the top? I was cringing until I got to the end and found the message to “Now read it bottom to top”. Still not saying it belongs in a technical document but it felt way less abrasive after reading it both directions.


The spicy bit is that this is the first release that contained such a political message. And also the first one that is managed by the guy who started the mess of this post, too! Not exactly sure if he's the one who put it in there, but it's one heck of a coincidence.




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