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I used Zulip last week to ask a question on Lean on their community.

I only sent like 3 messages, but it was awfully slow. Didn't come away with a good impression.



I'd be curious to investigate this; do you have many tens of thousands of unread messages in the Lean community, or is it a new account?

I ask because we have a known issue in Zulip that the first minute or two of using the product is quite slow for folks with 100K for unread messages because it the web app's client-side data fetching system ends up fetching them all in order to make clicking around the app afterwards extremely snappy.

We've reworked that system over the last few months, and it'll be deployed to Zulip Cloud next week if all goes well. But if you don't have a lot of unread messages, I'd very much like to understand why -- I'd love for you to stop by chat.zulip.org and debug with us a bit if you can spare a bit of time.

(It could be that the Lean community Zulip involves rendering a LOT of LaTeX, for example)


I didn't spend a lot of time. It is a new account. I logged in again just now to check.

You are right. Lean community had about 3K unread messages for me. After I marked a whole bunch read, and clicked around a bit, speed is now good.

Thanks for making me check.

My only other feedback would be that there is a new user "tutorial" or rather the interface highlights certain aspects of the UI for the new user. The bubbles that pop up for this, are too small and not noticeable on a dark theme. Make them bigger and different color.


Absolutely! Reworking the onboarding experience is one of our main focus areas right now; we plan to remove the bubbles altogether, and replace them with other types of onboarding content.




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