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> One perk of the menubar being this way that I’ve come to appreciate is that programs can’t try to remove it or sweep it into a hamburger menu in some misguided quest for minimalism.

Sure, but those same applications just leave a bare and non-functional menu bar at the top, which is almost more offensive.

Windows enforces the same kinda constraints on MenuBars:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/api/winuser/...

The only difference is the Windows' version disappears if you choose not to use it. And the same with KDE and GTK.



If an app doesn’t populate the menubar under macOS, I’m probably not going to use it unless I absolutely have to. It’s a strong signal of bad design, low-effort port, poor functionality or some combination thereof. There are few applications so devoid of functionality that they can’t populate a menubar.


You can take whatever stance you like. The point being made is simply that menubars work the same in both cases excepting two factors: mandatory existence and location.




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