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Americans have long blamed the overweight. That might be about to change (psychologytoday.com)
2 points by paulpauper on Feb 21, 2024 | hide | past | favorite | 9 comments


It's so easy to overeat though. 1700-2300 calories is so little food. It's no wonder people are becoming obese when even a small dessert has 400 calories or 300-500 calories for mocha. Or 500-700 calories for a burger, no fries or soda. I tried to lose weight and was taken aback by how little food I was allowed to eat compared to before. You're stuck with salads, some slices of bread, black coffee, and maybe a single decent meal, all while resisting the temptation to overeat. Somehow this is supposed to be scalable for the general population to solve obesity.


It really is so difficult. I'm trying to lose weight at the moment and I simply don't have it in me to do it without taking appetite suppressants, which have their own risks and side effects. But I just don't think I have it in me to do it with just caffeine and keto like I did when I was 25.


“think” - don’t ignore the mental component. maybe even start there.

that isn’t said as judgement. your body and brain don’t (and won’t) always agree, and worse, your brain can be wrong.

you are what you think. it isn’t that you can’t, or that you won’t, you simply haven’t yet. clearly you want to, otherwise the difficulty wouldn’t be a concern. so it also isn’t that you don’t want to. so far that’s a long list of positives.


I don’t think blaming overweight people for being overweight is any different or worse than blaming anyone for doing anything else that has a bad outcome.

The fact of the matter is that consuming less calories will make you lose weight (unless you’ve got a serious condition which makes you retain a ton of water or something). Counting your calories works, in cases where it doesn’t people are either:

a) Counting wrong, not including oils, small snacks etc

Or b) Wrongly estimating the amount of energy they’re expending.

There seems to be a stigma about saying that being overweight is because of the person that there doesn’t seem to be for most other things. If someone smokes cigarettes, loses their money gambling or gets fined for doing 120 in a 50 zone they will be held entirely responsible for their own bad choices, despite smoking, gambling and risk-taking all being often more addictive than overeating.

I think this is because there are a lot more overweight people than smokers, problem gamblers or compulsive thrill-seekers. Thus there are a lot more people who can read and agree with an article that says overeating isn't their fault, but someone who writes an article about how there shouldn't be speed limits because they're unfair to street racers would be ridiculed by the 98% of people who don't do that.


One difference that makes overeating very challenging is that abstention isn’t viable.

As addictive as heroin, coke, gambling, or alcohol is, it’s possible to decide “you know what? I’m not partaking in any of it for the rest of the week/month/year/life”

Outside of a hunger strike, everyone has to eat food every week.


but one can abstain from some food, right. It's not like you have to eat the entire pizza.


Making an analog decision correctly day after day for the rest of your life is more difficult for many than making a binary decision once.

I know I have some self-control limitations and abuse tendencies in my ancestry. I can decide (and have) to never try heroin. Problem avoided.


Narrative brought to you by big pharma


and yet you can still fix the volatile.

> Fortunately, new information can change the way issues are framed, and that seems to be happening in the case of the problem of obesity. The longstanding American belief that obesity is the fault of the individual is being challenged by new weight-loss drugs that have become all the rage. These drugs are shifting the narrative about obesity from a willpower problem to a biological one.

that is all still true even without ever taking a weight loss drug. the impact reaches far beyond those injecting themselves. (watch those mass consumption stocks.) and for some, the fat won’t drop before the shame.




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