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AI can't suffer


Suffering in humans is not limited strictly yo physical real.

If AI is self conscious, claiming its a person and is suffering.

What can you do to prove or disprove it? Nothing.

This is a brick wall of "The hard problem of consciousness" and we dont have any good ideas to solve it yet.

Not that long ago people claimed animals dont really suffer. As they are a biological machines that pretend to be hurt.


No, we are attributing feelings to an overglorified spreadsheet. I understand it, we have empathy, but AI is just responding to an input the way it have been trained, like other piece of software.


you and me are a glorified spreadsheet running on wetware (brain - neural net) do you have feelings?


You're funny.


I see... maybe you shouldn't be talking about stuff u clearly have surface level info or twitter opinion about, eh?


Dude, you're a spreadsheet. What are you talking about?


holy cow, understanding a simple metaphor is too much to ask?


Just had a brief vision of the not so distant future of you being held to account for this comment by superintelligent AIs


I support Roko's Basilisk... And so should you


Well, in reinforcement learning, wrong outputs are inherently painful for the AI. If the system expects getting negative feedback regardless what it does, I would say it is suffering. I would also define torture as giving it negative feedback for any possible output.


Prove you can.


Philosphy aside, current 'AI' can't suffer in the same way notepad can't suffer.


Naive arguments aside, humans can't suffer in the same way a steak can't suffer.


Humans are alive, steaks are not. Current AI suffers as much as steak.


Prove that AI can.


I'll just torture you until you prove you can.


If you can't see the difference between a live being and a piece of software who is going to suffer are you.




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