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> Humans are born with equal rights (at least in some countries) but aren't equal in capacity, character, judgment, and so on.

This is the most insulting statement on humanity and democracy I have read recently. I don’t really think you have meant it the way you have written it. Let’s unpack some parts of the statement.

> Humans are born with equal rights

This part sanitizes the fact that some are born in poor some in rich families. The rights may be in theory equal but only the one with the wealth and knowledge on political environment will be able to use them.

> [Humans] aren't [born] equal in capacity, character, judgment, and so on.

I can only read this part sensing some rasism and elitism. This neglects a dramatic impact on the environment where the person is born and expectations from them if they want to fit in.

To conclude, Russians are not orcs because they are born that way, but instead because they have been raised in an orc fertilising envirtonment.



Please do not add your interpretations and state them as mine, I'm happy to clarify what I meant: I think all humans should have the same exact rights, but humans aren't born the same, some are blonde, some are tall, some are, in fact, very fucking stupid, some of them are psychopaths. There is nothing classist or racist in that. I don't want to go into the nurture vs nature argument, but if somebody is doing something very bad to somebody else (e.g. attempted murder), he should be stopped. I don't think I am saying anything extravagant here. To justify or diminish what the bad actor (the would-be murderer) is doing in any way is real racism/classism/whatever.

>but instead because they have been raised in an orc fertilising envirtonment

I mean, after centuries of repression, gulags, etc. I'm sure either the culture or the society could have been affected? Let's drop the orc term and substitute it with "wish Ukrainian genocide".

To conclude, Russians are not "wishers of Ukrainian genocide" because they are born that way, but instead because they have been raised in a "wishers of Ukrainian genocide" fertilising envirtonment.

Now that I've sanitized the sentence, could you point out why I should care about how russians have come to be this way rather than caring about stopping them to avoid the destruction of Ukraine?


Ok. I see that we are on the same page if we were to agree on the definition of “born” to reaching a mature age.

> Now that I've sanitized the sentence, could you point out why I should care about how russians have come to be this way rather than caring about stopping them to avoid the destruction of Ukraine?

The distinction is necessary because the war does not only occur on the battlefield, but there is a significant portion on propoganda. The propaganda reaches best thoose who are not being integrated and with very open immigration policy there now are many within the Europe. With stratification of wealth there are many poor who don’t feel that they belong. Imagine telling them that they are born inferior.




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