>>Unless you're trying to say standardized tests are racist?
Quite the opposite. While the tests were criticized as racist, further sutdy is showing that the results correlate most strongly with educational opportunity, and basically document the broader disparities.
>>Disparity in opportunity, right? Asians just don't have access to enough basketball courts. But yeah, I'm the ignorant one.
Yes, you are.
You entirely ignore the role of culture and disparate opportunity in athletic results. For starters, in some minority cultures, sports is a primary route AVAILABLE for success, so both more athletes go into those routes, and more stay in. A couple of examples.
I knew a serious football player, played for 'bama, won the Rose Bowl, was recruited by multiple top pro teams. Declined it all and went into software sales (which is where I met him, recruiting my company to be a VAR), because he wanted to have knees that worked after he was 40. He was white and had the opportunity to do something else.
Or, take the speed events of alpine ski racing, Downhill and Super-G (something I know a bit about from having been internationally ranked and on my national ski team and the pro tour decades ago). For decades, the Austrians dominate. At various times, a Swiss, Norwegian, German, French, Italian, or American will be on top, but there are always Austrians in the top 10 and usually dominating at the top of the podium. Yet Austria is only a country of 8+ million people, not much larger than Massachusetts. And there are serious skiing mountains and training programs in dozens of larger countries, and far larger potential talent pools.
I can also tell you that Downhill racing is one of the absolutely most intensly demanding sports - over 2 minutes of peak demands on strength, aerobic capacity, and skilled fine-tuned control required to merely make it to the finish line, let alone win.
You clearly suggest that it is genetics that determine sporting outcome and anyone claiming opportunity or other factors is ignorant.
So, what is it about the Austrians' gene pool that gives them such perennial prowess in Downhill ski racing? Is their genetic makeup somehow that different from the next-door Swiss or Germans? Obviously not. What IS different is their culture where they have great training programs and a huge portion of their talent pool goes into ski racing — Austrian kids want to win at Kitzbühel or Wengen the way American kids aspire to win a Super Bowl or World Series —and that's differentially where much of our talent pool goes.
As for Asian basketball players, obviously they CAN be great [0], but anecdotally, their culture values things other than basketball, so we see lots more of them at the top of math competitions than we see Austrians.
So, while I could go on at far greater length, the answer is clearly that YES you are the ignorant one on those sorts of topics, and should stop spreading your ignorance.
Quite the opposite. While the tests were criticized as racist, further sutdy is showing that the results correlate most strongly with educational opportunity, and basically document the broader disparities.
>>Disparity in opportunity, right? Asians just don't have access to enough basketball courts. But yeah, I'm the ignorant one.
Yes, you are.
You entirely ignore the role of culture and disparate opportunity in athletic results. For starters, in some minority cultures, sports is a primary route AVAILABLE for success, so both more athletes go into those routes, and more stay in. A couple of examples.
I knew a serious football player, played for 'bama, won the Rose Bowl, was recruited by multiple top pro teams. Declined it all and went into software sales (which is where I met him, recruiting my company to be a VAR), because he wanted to have knees that worked after he was 40. He was white and had the opportunity to do something else.
Or, take the speed events of alpine ski racing, Downhill and Super-G (something I know a bit about from having been internationally ranked and on my national ski team and the pro tour decades ago). For decades, the Austrians dominate. At various times, a Swiss, Norwegian, German, French, Italian, or American will be on top, but there are always Austrians in the top 10 and usually dominating at the top of the podium. Yet Austria is only a country of 8+ million people, not much larger than Massachusetts. And there are serious skiing mountains and training programs in dozens of larger countries, and far larger potential talent pools.
I can also tell you that Downhill racing is one of the absolutely most intensly demanding sports - over 2 minutes of peak demands on strength, aerobic capacity, and skilled fine-tuned control required to merely make it to the finish line, let alone win.
You clearly suggest that it is genetics that determine sporting outcome and anyone claiming opportunity or other factors is ignorant.
So, what is it about the Austrians' gene pool that gives them such perennial prowess in Downhill ski racing? Is their genetic makeup somehow that different from the next-door Swiss or Germans? Obviously not. What IS different is their culture where they have great training programs and a huge portion of their talent pool goes into ski racing — Austrian kids want to win at Kitzbühel or Wengen the way American kids aspire to win a Super Bowl or World Series —and that's differentially where much of our talent pool goes.
As for Asian basketball players, obviously they CAN be great [0], but anecdotally, their culture values things other than basketball, so we see lots more of them at the top of math competitions than we see Austrians.
So, while I could go on at far greater length, the answer is clearly that YES you are the ignorant one on those sorts of topics, and should stop spreading your ignorance.
[0] from literally a 2-second search: https://basketballmentality.com/best-asian-nba-players/