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> Why aren't we building on that for the next generation, just like they did?

What actions do you consider productive contributions to peace and preventing war? What aren't we doing, that was done before. What does quitting look like?

> it just seems like more neo-reactionary rhetoric. It couldn't be that democracy, international institutions (such as the UN), etc. have changed the world - that we built a better world.

Maybe you are right and it is the institutions that changed the world, but I find it odd that you attribute causality to actions following the war, and not the war itself.

What if the rebalancing of national power and massive loss of life is what actually lead to peace, and all this discussion of institutions is just noise and fluff.



What if we are powerless? If we are doomed to warfare and hatred?

That is what quitting looks like.


Thats not what I am saying. Im asking what you are advocating for and against?

Are you saying we need more wars to prevent wars? Economic solidarity in sanctions against bad actors?

It is easy to say "wars bad, peace good", but more difficult to articulate an actual plan for preventing them and promoting peace.


You are saying that; as just one example:

> What if the rebalancing of national power and massive loss of life is what actually lead to peace, and all this discussion of institutions is just noise and fluff.

War is peace - right out of 1984!


I think it would be delusional the think that war never results in peace. History is full of countless violent conflicts, revolutions, separations that were followed by relative peace. Of course that doesn't mean that going to war is a good thing.

>we have the institutions, playbook, everything. Why would we throw that away? Why aren't we building on that for the next generation, just like they did? We almost can't be stopped if we choose to do it; only if we inexplicably quit. Who would want us to do that?

It seems like you think there are clear and obvious solutions to conflict. Im asking what those are? Do you think they are working? why or why not?

What is the obvious playbook solution for resolving Ukraine or Gaza conflicts that we threw away instead of following?




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