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It is extremely easy to disconnect from work. Turn off your laptop and live your life.

I find that those who are chronic workers have very little going for them in their personal lives.

I challenge everyone who feels overworked to work 1 hour less this week, then an extra 1 hour next week. See how far you can go before anyone even notices or cares. It’s farther than you think.



I often find myself at totally random moments thinking about problems related to work. It is often at times that I have been away from the laptop, that solutions pop-up in my mind, for a nasty problem. Often it is form of attacking a problem from a different direction.

For me turning of my work laptop is not enough to disconnect from work. Most of the thinks that I worry about while being at home are not about technical aspects but about non-technical aspects of the job: dealing with managers, colleagues, and project organisation.


> I often find myself at totally random moments thinking about problems related to work. It is often at times that I have been away from the laptop, that solutions pop-up in my mind, for a nasty problem. Often it is form of attacking a problem from a different direction.

I get this too, all the time, but I don’t see it as a problem. This is what the mind likes to do: chew on problems. It’s not realistic be expect to be able to prevent your mind from trying to solve problems. All you can really do is to not pay it too much attention and it eventually dies out.

If a solution to a work problem pops into my mind, I just write down a few key words on my phone and continue with my day. Then I revisit the notes on my next work day.


Same here. I have no trouble "closing the laptop", but I can't stop my mind from problem solving. Fortunately for me I don't have any of the "soft" concerns you mention.

The practical side is clear: close the laptop. But on the mental side I do wonder where the right balance is. I've recently started to forget about work at the weekends to the extent that - usually late on a Sunday - I suddenly remember I have to be at work the next day, which is an odd sensation. Probably just getting old(er).


Looks like you just had busy and nice weekends then. I get the same deep reset weekends sometimes, especially when I also take Friday off. Then the next Monday morning I barely remember what to say at the daily stand-up confessional.


That sounds like anxiety. Nothing is so important that it can’t wait for business hours.

And if the company will fail or you would be negatively judged for only working on business hours, there are always other jobs.

Writing down a shower thought that hits you out of your subconscious is one thing, but actively considering work topics off work time is working more for the same pay.

My interactions with colleagues are pleasant enough that I don’t need to worry about them at home. And things like “resource allocation” happens on work time


Or ADHD. That means that I wake up thinking about things - work, house tasks - and I don't get to switch off in the way that you do.


If you are getting paid as an engineer, let that happen. Don't ignore ideas just because it's off hours. You don't have to let that thinking take over your life: make a note of the new idea and get to it monday if you want. But these solutions are precious. When they happen, they happen.


That section of the article unfortunately conflates two types of not switching off.

* Late at night, quick check of my email or Slack and maybe even reply (either to get it out of the way or to show off how hard I'm working).

* While I'm in the shower, thinking about some interesting logical problem (can be something mundane like how to clearly express something in a report).

What is healthy and what isn't is subjective. But most would agree the first is not healthy, while some would say that the second is OK. Personally, I think it's fine (nice even) and certainly doesn't interfer with social or family life.

You (comment I'm replying to) have added a third which is quite different: "chronic workers" are those that are flat out working for extended hours. That's not really the same as not being able to switch off.


> I find that those who are chronic workers have very little going for them in their personal lives.

Yeah having kids fixed that for me


> It is extremely easy to disconnect from work.

Clearly that's not the case for everybody. Don't assume that your reality - and what works for you - is universal truth.


Considering that the author of TFA assumed (wrongly) that his inability to disconnect from work is a universal problem, I don't think it's fair to criticize the comments here for just following his example.


Couldn't agree more. Worked with a guy and he would respond on slack almost immediately-he was addicted to work and having the app on his personal phone. he had nothing else going on in his life.

Personally, if I shut my laptop there is no way to contact me for work related issues nor should there be.


> having the app on his personal phone

That’s hideous. If you are going to carry it around everywhere anyway at least use your work phone for everything. That way you get at least some of the upside (work pays for it).


> It is extremely easy to disconnect from work. Turn off your laptop and live your life.

The problem is not that I can’t stop work. I can sit around for a week and nobody would notice. It happens.

But when I do work, I care. I want it to be nice, beautiful and make everyone’s lives easier. And I want that now. I cannot just flip those switches off when I go home (or am home, when doing wfh). It would probably be objectively better if I rested my mind a bit, but my work happens in big bursts.


I felt this.

Only way to find peace with this mindset is to go all-in on your own dream(s) not your boss' dream. May require a leap of faith...


> I find that those who are chronic workers have very little going for them in their personal lives.

Isn't that a truism? If you only work, there is not much time for anything else, I think.


It is, and yet I suspect many chronic workers can’t recognize it as one.

It is obvious from a Birds Eye view, but those stuck in the toil rarely understand that they are losing their chance to build a meaningful life apart from work.


you kidding me. have you heard about 24/7 oncall?


I don’t take any job where I would have to wake up from sleep to handle something. Some jobs have stated on-call, but the consequence of not handling a 3am call is nothing. In which case you make more money/hour by not responding to night requests.

The products I’ve worked on in my career largely operate on US business hours, so this has never been a real issue for me.

If I were receiving calls about work more than once a year, I’d quit.


lucky you. SWE job elsewhere in the world (or maybe if you are on H1B in USA) implies 24/7 oncall duties. or you and your family get deported where you come from.

and you can't just quit. you quit, your visa immediately reworked, as tied to your employer. and again. deportation.




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