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Community Notes is the best feature. I wonder why wouldn't original Twitter implement it. Maybe it would deflate the bias they wanted to project on the rest of us.


Just a quick point: community notes existed before the takeover. It was called birdwatch but got rebranded.


2021 January - Birdwatch launched with first 1000 users

2022 October - Elon acquires Twitter

2022 November - Birdwatch renamed to Community Notes

2022 December - Community Notes feature made available to tweets around the world

Maybe Elon pushed the release schedule timeline up, but it would not be correct to state that pre-Elon Twitter didn't develop and launch the feature. It had been live for almost 2 years by the time Musk showed up.


You forgot

2022 October - birdwatch made available to everyone in the US as of November[1]

Just before Musk acquisition.

[1]https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/product/2022/helpful-b...


No way original twitter would have allowed community notes on ads or political posts


I was a fairly early Birdwatch tester; they definitely permitted political posts to be annotated. I can't recall either way on ads; given Musk never made a big "I'm enabling it on ads!" announcement I suspect it was always possible.

(Especially considering you can promote a post after the fact; it's not necessarily an ad to start with.)


When reddit first added fake/branded posts as ads for a short while it was possible for people to post on the branded posts. It was hilarious (vicious roasting of the products and brand) but of course that was quickly locked down.


By the time Community Notes are added, the damage is done. We see it with inflammatory tweets from Elon all the time:

- Tweet inflammatory thing not based in fact - Followers eat it up and retweet - A day or two later, Community Notes says “well actually”

By the time we get to number three, the original message has done the rounds and Elon won’t be walking it back by any means.


Community notes was started a long time before musk bought Twitter, it was rolled out progressively before coincidentally getting at full speed around (but still 3 weeks before) the acquisition.


> Maybe it would deflate the bias they wanted to project on the rest of us.

I think that an important thing to understand is that social media generally doesn't project a single bias. It is more dangerous: it creates bubbles that encompass groups of people and then mine their minds for attention. This results in polarization, increased rage, and fake outrage, and the like.

So it isn't really helpful to complain that Twitter is leftwing or rightwing etc.; it amplifies for you whatever you already believe. Even though we can generally accept that people's minds don't really change on big issues (whether online or in person), one big problem with social media is that it disincentives listening to each other. "Distincentivze" is perhaps euphimistic - it puts up hard to penetrate walls between us. We don't listen to each other, even if the other person has a worldview or conviction that we detest.


Community Notes corrects for atleast factual claims right away. I have seen it on ads of products where the product is free and the Community Notes said the product is free only for a week. Here's a thing about fake outrage, for an outrage to be effective the opinion expressed in the tweet multiples the fact vector by a million, but community notes effectively deflates the opinion if it tries to do that. A person getting community noted, in my mind at least, means is ill-informed and not to be trusted.


> Community Notes corrects for atleast factual claims right away.

No, it doesn't. It's vote-based; enough people have to vote that it's a helpful vote for it to appear. That can take hours/days/weeks.


It's not opinion or votes all the way down. The corrections have to be referenced. So if someone is misrepresenting a fact, it will be community noted and votes will accumulate as all that remains to do is verify the referenced source.


> It's not opinion or votes all the way down.

It really is. An unreferenced note may be voted up; a well-referenced one may not. There's certainly no requirement you even click the references to see if they say what's claimed. A misrepresented fact may be noted, and it's certainly not synchronous.


They are just repeating Elon's claims that Twitter was actively doing "woke propaganda". It's not worth your time, really.


> it amplifies for you whatever you already believe.

And specifically the things you hate, because that's what people click-'n-view.


Original Twitter did implement it. Musk renamed it a month after finishing his purchase.

https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/product/2021/introduci...


https://blog.twitter.com/en_us/topics/product/2022/helpful-b...

And rolled it out broadly a few weeks before Musk took over.

(Yeah yeah, that’s a long time for a feature to be in beta or development or whatever)


A year or two really isn't a long time for a beta of this nature.


Personally I agree. It’s a social engineering feature and, accordingly, you need a lot of time to see how the system ends up abusing/adapting/repurposing it.

It’s just an easy critique: “they don’t ship fast enough according to my totally uninformed and arbitrary assessment!”


I think even 2021 is late for such a critical feature. It should have been thought of and implemented even earlier. If Twitter can maintain an army of bluecheck mark verifiers, reversing bad community notes could be handed over to them or similar group of people, especially when Twitter's aim was to be goto source of quality information.


Exactly




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