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> Your airports have security because your leaders learned the same things on 9/11 that the US did.

This isn’t accurate. Where I live, no ID is required for domestic flights and I walk through a metal detector. That’s it. New Zealand.

The rules I face going international are to keep other countries happy and my 101ml of water and potential bomb shoes are a bad joke.

The attack on the US isn’t something I’ve see replicated in the Middle East weekly that I’ve ever noticed.

If TSA rules make you feel safe, I suppose that’s good. Unfortunately they fail at their role 95% if the time.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/investigation-breaches-...



Huh somehow one of the closest US security allies, Five Eyes member NZ, isn’t subjugated by US security apparatus whims… almost like it has nothing to do with the US deciding other nations’ security regimes.

Yes there are dozens of suicide attacks per year, and yes they are overwhelmingly throughout the Muslim world (not merely the Middle East).

Security’s role is twofold: deterrence and prevention. You have no way of knowing what the deterrent effects are, which is why I asked if you’re of the belief that there were only 19 people willing to do what happened on 9/11 and we just happened to get rid of them all on the same day.

Do you believe that or not?


I appear to misinterpreted what you said. Your initial comment appeared to me to be a reference to flying a hijacked plane into a building and that isn’t happening that often. Suicide attacks in general are common. Never talked about in the same context is the lone angry man with a gun as that is somehow that is unsolvable in the US.

Fascinating how the TSA overreach and ineffectiveness is somehow required, yet the terror inflicted by the domestic problem of gunmen is not able to be addressed. Is it not terrorism?

Do you believe the TSA is effective? The Department of Homeland Security don’t.


What on earth are you on about? Is this just “USA has problems argh argh”?

The reason the gun issue is hard to solve is extremely, extremely obvious. The early designers of our country wrote specific words on a particularly important document. Agree or disagree with those words or think they should be changed or whatever you want, the “why” of it being difficult to fix is self-evident to anyone who can read English though.

Huh… DHS says TSA fails 95% of penetration tests.

Let’s try two interpretations:

1) DHS thinks TSA is “ineffective” (your interpretation) and yet continues to commit $9B+ per year to it for… no reason? Because they don’t have other programs to fund instead? To soothe the public while simultaneously publishing the 95% figure?

2) DHS views TSA as one component of a risk-based “defense in depth” strategy and thinks its contributions to that overall system, despite failing most actual penetration tests, is worth $9B+ per year.

You know if you got over the “USA stupid bad mean” the world would be a lot more interpretable.




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