Yea, don't debate that. I just personally have no tolerance for the behaviour of these framework developers and the level of work they impose on their users.
For a business that has engineers to manage this day to day it's less of an issue. For building things you want to live online untouched for a decade it's just not an option.
Laravel is nice to build stuff fast in one particular way. It's awful to maintain and heaven forbid you have a different idea about how things should be done.
I used to be Symfony snob too but tried Laravel and I definitely see its strengths.
Laravel was not the right choice with our homegrown, non-framework app, with an existing schema.