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Wonder how many people are thinking “maybe I’ll go to Canada, spend a few years, get citizenship there, then come back to America as a Canadian with much better prospects”?


As a Canadian, currently stuck in the US immigration process, I chuckle at this remark.

Also I-485's i.e. Green Cards, Permanent Residence status, in the US are based on where you are BORN not which citizenship(s) you have.


Yes but the goal is not to move to the US permanently, it is to make a ton of money here and then retire in Canada.


If u have a ton money, it's cheaper to just live in US. Canada is very expensive for the plebs. The cost of living keeps rising and the politicians are very anti small businesses and pro oligarchy. They have a strangle hold on the country simliar to the Murdoch in Australia. Ironically, US is fairer in helping the small timers.


> If u have a ton money, it's cheaper to just live in US.

Not if you have a chronic illness and have doctor appointments most weeks.


It was the saving grace, but I am not sure if that's the case now as the situation deteriorates. If I am already having the big tech insurance and I am gonna to fly to Mexico/India for some of the items anyway, why do I need it?

The politicians simply DO NOT care. They just let oligarchs keep eating the small palayers, and it will totally break the health system some day just like how they killed 3rd party internet providers. Telus is already making the play in the health sector.


Basically, if you have valuable tech skills and are young and healthy, the US is a great place to make a lot of money.

Otherwise, not so much.


As an H-1B holder, we are legally entitled (and required) to work for one specific employer and that's it. You cannot even think of starting a company, you cannot work a gig job, you can't work two "high-paying" tech jobs.

Everyone knows the "ton of money" doesn't come from working a salaried job, it's from creating something new / starting a company.

But only US green card holders or US citizens can even dream of considering that as an option they can pursue.


Ton of money is ill-defined, but it's quite possible to work a salaried job in tech in the US and achieve financial independence and an extremely high standard of living.


You can found on a H-1B. My friend has.


that used to be desirable. But the canadian health care system has degraded, and cost of living is now super high with the housing boom

I say this as a canadian based in sf


The TN visa maybe enough for them once they become Canadian citizens.


A couple of my cousins did this and this was also my parent's backup plan in case we didn't get a GC.

It's a big reason a lot of Indian national SWEs on H-1Bs end up in Canada.


I'd estimate that most people in the tech pipeline intend that. TN status is a lot easier to get and tech salaries are much higher in America.


TN visas are not for software engineers, they are for software analysts, or actual engineers. And they are not dual intent (you can't convert them to a green card).


1. The are plethora of examples online people holding TN work as a SDE with a CS degree 2. I believe you can file to change intent 90 days after entry


Job titles are at some level made up.


Try using that argument with a xenophobic highschool dropout immigration official...


Are there any highschool-dropout immigration officials in the US? I kind of doubt it.


TN is useful, but not _that_ useful if you eventually want to get a Green card.

And GC quotas are based on place of birth.


Biggest advantage of TN is there is no annual quota which is by far the largest obstacle for most folks trying to even get in the country. Once you're in getting a transfer or obtaining eb2 is much easier bc you're going to have income to support it.




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