> We have achieved complete ouroboros.

That's a generous / romantic take. For me, the Human Centipede of online text generation is now a complete circle

Awful, but strangely appropriate. Considering all the "I don't care about quality; just dump a pile of text" uses we're seeing.

We call that reinforcement.

It’s like actors in movies copy real world people who copy actors in movies.

RLHBARF - Reinforcement Learning from Human But Actually Robot Feedback

Uh, I think this should be a thing considering we have LLMs training other LLMs. so we end up with this BARF loop.

There is an actual interesting question here if BARF loops can create new synthetic knowledge, or if humans need to be the 'spark of novelty' in that loop to drive it to new knowledge.

I love your acronym formation there.

There's another thread running at the moment about BARF degrading the machine's performance. I don't have enough information to be confident, but it sounded plausible and likely.

if BARF becomes a thing I really hope I'll be credited for it haha

Q: Does art imitate life or does life imitate art?

A: Yes

Watch some videos of various factory production lines, or ag planting for example. Machines that feed stuff to humans that may feed more machines.

There's a great, if rather old, word for these machines: "tools".

Or perhaps "ourorobos" :)

And the final robot has millions-billions of humans fused using linear algebra.

And the humans are trillions of tiny nanobots (after a there was a "Grey Goo" event billions of years ago) that formed a hivemind that isn't even aware of all its own parts. :P

It's robots all the way down!

no it is only an ouroboros if biting its own tail -- this is more of a cyborg centipede situation

Just wait until the LLM extensions are better. The future looks like this:

1. You use MTurk to brainstorm new product ideas

2. The human figures out your company and tasks the LLM with the brainstorming

3. The LLM hits you up for a chat about your company's future :)))

true orourboros comes when it's undetectable which level of the turtle you're on.