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What about people like Genghis Khan, Adolf Hitler or Joe McCarthy? Et cetera?

The belief that personal death cannot be good for society is just as ridiculous as the belief that it always is.



If the people who lived through the first evil dictator were still around they'd recognized the signs of the next one.


I think in your scenario everyone lives through the evil dictator, including the dictator, and all the people who believed in the word of the dictator as a god. You wouldn't really need to recognize any signs, because the evil dictator would still be there. Dictating.

Or is this a world where only nice people get to live forever?


the evil dictator would still be there. Dictating.

Neither Hitler nor McCarthy were still 'dictating' when they died. Lack of death doesn't mean that everything would remain the same forever.


Hitler wasn't dictating at the time of his death, but Stalin was.

Stalin's death lead to a good change.

When somebody stay in power for too long it leads to stagnation.

Human civilization has other measures against such stagnation (such as 2 terms limit for presidential position).

However limited life span still adds extra protection against society stagnation.

It's not obvious if benefits of unlimited lifespan outweight potential problems.

I think that doubling life span would probably be beneficial overall, but it's hard to say if further life span increase would.


>I think in your scenario everyone lives through the evil dictator, including the dictator

No, I'm talking about the elimination of aging and natural death. People would still be able to kill themselves and others.


That's even worse. No rational person would risk their life in warfare if they otherwise stood to live forever. The only people who would even try to kill someone else, chancing death themselves, would be fanatics and psychotics.

The legions of true believers would be able to dictate terms to enlightened society with the mere threat of violence.

I really don't think you've thought this through.


>That's even worse. No rational person would risk their life in warfare if they otherwise stood to live forever.

Think about what you're saying here. You think no one in Germany was rational? They would have had the same risk of dying we would. Hitler was only powerful because there were people willing to follow his orders.

And there was no shortage of true believers on the Allied side either (think patriotism), in any case.


>>That's even worse. No rational person would risk their life in warfare if they otherwise stood to live forever.

You would have to be pretty damn patriotic to want to give your life to preserve a nation-state you expect to outlive anyway. If I'm going to die anyway, it doesn't make much difference; it makes sense to risk my life for some things. If my life is eternal, what principle could I possibly, rationally put ahead of my survival?

Eternal life gives the insane an advantage over the sane, and the idea that the insane are as likely to be good as evil seems like a risky bet to me.


I don't get it. Why would we want people to wage war to preserve a nation-state? We want people to wage war to protect their own lives and the lives of others. That doesn't stop making sense just because your life expectancy is much higher.




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