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So YT is too greedy and shows you a lot of ads and loses trust, but if they were to play it cool and stop showing ads you’d sign up for premium?


I think it's more nuanced than that. Personally I love/hate YouTube:

Love:

* Most of my favorite creators are there

* Ahh, that's it.

Hate:

* Seems to have no actual humans working there, or no way to reach them in the event of disputes. If someone posting to HN about their business locked out of their account is the best way to get support, there's a problem.

* Keeps getting better and better at..... pushing extremist content and crypto scams.

* Removes tools (like dislike counts) that helped users spot bad content.

* Charges $23/mo for premium which bundles a bunch of stuff I don't give a rat's ass about (youtube music? no thank you!), in addition to just removing ads. (That's only $2 less than I pay for my cable modem, like, seriously ridiculous territory.)

* Doesn't disclose how much of that subscription actually ends up in creators' pockets.

If they solved those last two issues, would I sign up? Ahh, no. They're still a net negative.

I'd much rather try to drag my favorite creators into posting elsewhere. I've signed up for Nebula and I support roughly two dozen creators on Patreon and similar tipjar/support systems. I'm trying to put my money where my mouth is, because IMO YouTube is circling the drain and getting desperate, and the sooner we develop viable alternatives, the better.

So, no, there's nothing YouTube (and their parent corporation DoubleClick wearing a Google mask) can do at this point would make me cut them a check. I'm working as hard as I reasonably can to make them obsolete.


* They fuck over music creators and don’t give a hoot (probably because there are no humans working for Google anyway)


>Most of my favorite creators are there

>Doesn't disclose how much of that subscription actually ends up in creators' pockets.

Enough for your favorite creators to be there.

>Charges $23/mo for premium

It's $23/mo because people like you block ads. The ad blocker-blockers can't roll out soon enough. Fingers crossed.


Cool. I'll just use my "block adblock-blocker scripts".

They already exist. But some will be inconvenienced. Us pierats won't be :D

http://reek.github.io/anti-adblock-killer/#filterlist


You think Google wouldn't increase prices the moment they manage to defy all attempts to block ads?


It's $11.99 per month and $6.99 for students.

Where are you all getting $23 from?




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