I hear ya! I'm out here dying on the GPT-4 API waitlist too. I use gpt-3.5-turbo's API extensively, and occasionally copy my prompts into GPT-4's web UI and watch as it just flawlessly does all the things 3.5 struggles with. Very frustrating since I don't have GPT-4 API access, but also very, very impressive. It's not even remotely close.
I pay the $20 for ChatGPT Plus (aka, GPT-4 web interface access); personally I find it useful enough to be worth paying for, even in its
rate-limited state. It already replaces Google for anything complex for me. I wish I could pay for the API too, and use it in my projects.
The last time I tried to find a plumber in my local area through google I realized that the first three pages of results contained zero actual results. It was a mix of ads and seo spam from scammers. I ended up going to ddg and while there was plenty of seo spam there too, I found several good results on the first two pages.
Google has the technology and talent to relaunch themselves in a leadership position, but the current executive team doesn’t seem to have what it takes. They’re custodians / accountants, running the company a bit like Microsoft in the Ballmer era. What google needs to do now is leap ahead, and I don’t see it happening without a leadership change.
Amen. I have basically stopped using Google at this point because, when I do, the results are all garbage. I ask GPT-4 the same questions and get reliable mostly accurate answers. You do have to be cautious of lies/hallucinations but realistically most of Google's results now adays are sales pages masked as helpful articles that are mostly full of crap anyway.
I was dying on the GPT-4 API waitlist too. I built a proof-of-concept with GPT-3.5, got some ada embeddings, played around with some common patterns for a couple of weeks, spent less than $20. I then applied to the waitlist again with a few short sentences about what I'd done, how GPT-4 would make it better, and how it would enable something new and valuable for a particular market. Approved that day.
It's not exactly a shortcut, and maybe it was just luck, but I suspect the key is just to start building with what you have and show a trajectory. The best part is that coding with ChatGPT-4 as a "colleague" has made the whole thing super fun.
Thanks you for the offer, but I’m extremely conscious of avoiding a direct link from my comments here to who I am.
Maybe it’s a bit too paranoid, I don’t know, but I’ve also been open here about my workplace experiences, if someone who knew my irl connection to them and decided to comb through my comments, in a way that my HR dept among others might not quite appreciate. Maybe I should setup a separate HN account connected to me Professionally for that sort of thing.
Also my use case for GPT-4 is data analysis. Using the paid “plus” version shows a lot of promise for quickly bootstrapping data exploration and consumption as a jumping off point for more detailed digging. Via the chat interface it can ingest very small aggregate datasets and spit out observations that only myself and my boss have the domain name expertise to produce in my organization. but the Chat interface is highly limited and often truncates even small (faked but plausible) data, so I really want API access, because it involves sensitive info I couldn’t put into the chat site or responsibly share with someone outside my org.
But really, thanks for the offer. What are you working on with it?
I pay the $20 for ChatGPT Plus (aka, GPT-4 web interface access); personally I find it useful enough to be worth paying for, even in its rate-limited state. It already replaces Google for anything complex for me. I wish I could pay for the API too, and use it in my projects.