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But we aren’t talking about you. We are talking about us, society. And it’s unequivocal.


Society is made up of individuals.

200 years ago, some societies were fine with slavery. Enough individuals rejected it and society changed.

What you say only works insofar as "ethics" means only the rules of your society and not any person or group; this would also reject the "E" from PETA, the USA declaration of independence, and the Suffragettes.


Okay. So we kill and keep dolphins captive. We eat octopus. We run experiments on monkeys.

This happens globally. For 1000s of years. There is no global or even local movement to stop treating conscious animals any better… which is exactly my point, AI in its current state is less than that. So until we as a society want to tackle consciousness animals I don’t think we will tackle consciousness in AI




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