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> After all the Brave controversies

"Brave's controversies" are not really about Brave.

Brave as a company is not above criticism and should be harshly gone after for their mistakes when they do anything less than perfect with regards to privacy or anything else. I think they've done over 90% of things right, but have screwed up a small portion of the complicated stuff (new browser, new online advertising models, and search ecosystem) they're trying to pull off. And yes, they've made a few errors along the way.

That said, the "Brave controversies" are not actually about Brave's real merits as a company, but are mostly about a long-standing grudge regarding Brendan Eich's political beliefs. A certain crowd will not give Eich an inch to ever succeed and will continuously rip even the most minor and inane issue solely to destroy what he represents.

I'm really sick of people pretending that the "Brave controversies" are actually about Brave as a company and not overwhelmingly about the larger ongoing culture war that's been waged.



> "Brave's controversies" are not really about Brave.

Which of Brave's controversies listed on Wikipedia aren't about Brave because they are about Brendan Eich's political beliefs? I have no idea what his political beliefs are, but while I can accept the possibility that they may put Brave under additional scrutiny the problems people have had with Brave are real.

I think it'd be wrong to dismiss their controversies as being purely the product of a "culture war" even if some people's hate for Brendan might help promote awareness of those same controversies.


I don't care about Eich himself, I view creators as separate from their creations, so I'm surely not who you're talking about. I would rather that people use a non Chromium browser over a Chromium one, and honestly, Chromium itself is less shady than Brave due to the shady behavior I mentioned. I mean, man in the middle attacking your own browser, really?


Every one of those "few errors" involved other people's money, hijacking advertisements, etc. I don't even know what Brendan Eich's political beliefs are, except inasmuch as he decided to build a cryptocurrency scheme into his product, but I won't touch Brave with a ten-foot pole.

Not everything is a conspiracy. Sometimes it's just people deciding the thing you like isn't good enough for them.


>A certain crowd will not give Eich an inch to ever succeed and will continuously rip even the most minor and inane issue solely to destroy what he represents.

Oh fuck off. To add on to the comments of others, Many of us _do_ care about his "political beliefs". If you're in the tech industry, you're in one of the most queer industries of all time, and some (and sometimes, many depending on where you are) of your colleagues are likely to be some form of queer.

Just being a supporter of Prop 8 would have been a political belief. Actively donating money to fight for it is hate. Additionally, donating to Ron Paul is just proof of bad taste, but donating to Pat Buchanan, a known homophobic, antisemitic, white supremacist candidate doesn't just make it "oh his political beliefs is that gay people aren't cool, teehee" but veers straight into actual fucking hatred.

So, yes, fuck Brendan Eich as a person, _and_ Brave as a company has done a lot of things that make it truly untrustable.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/02/controver...


A demonstration of my exact point couldn't be made clearer than your comment. Thank you.


You're welcome. A clear demonstration that you are perfectly happy with people being discriminated against just because of their sexual orientation.




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