>While I wouldn't agree that it is worth banning someone for; telling someone that their preferred term for self identity is silly strikes me as very rude and implies a sense of authority or expertise that you really have no business in.
> implies a sense of authority or expertise that you really have no business in.
What about this is inherently unique to the specific word 'silly'? Further the "no business in" applies to someone's (self identified) race.
So every way I try and parse this, I get to a general statement.
So why, when I challenge said general statement, do you insert the word 'silly' in there?
I'm not talking about that, I'm not talking about insulting people. That is rude. What I am challenging is the idea that you can't comment because it
> implies a sense of authority or expertise that you really have no business in.
That statement isn't limited to rude things.
So rather than running off saying
> Everything you're saying here seems to suppose that you can only be held accountable for the first order effects of your speech.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Why don't you read your first post and even if you didn't intend for it to be interpreted that way, at least accept that I did.
I'm talking about using the word silly to describe someone else's provided identity because that was the context given.
If you want to talk about making some other comment on someone's provided identity, well, I'm still going to advise you not to do that. It's just not your business. There's very few contexts where it's going to be appreciated. What are these comments that you feel you must share?
> Further the "no business in" applies to someone's (self identified) race.
Lacking a shared identity and commenting on that identity does lessen your social pretext to comment on it. But no, it's not exclusively a race thing. It's moreso that it is their personal identity. It's not yours. And any unsolicited commentary on it is likely to be taken as adverse. It's not cool to tell someone how to be Black just because you're Black yourself. Or any other identity.
I'm saying, very plainly, that doing shit like this will make people think you're an asshole. And you're asking why can't you do it. And that's just not a valid question. You can do it. You ought not to. Why? Because it will make people think you're an asshole.
If you want to "foster a discussion" on an identity issue, that's different. But it begins with asking questions, or asking for feedback on ideas. Not with challenging their perceptions or asserting your own.
> implies a sense of authority or expertise that you really have no business in.
What about this is inherently unique to the specific word 'silly'? Further the "no business in" applies to someone's (self identified) race.
So every way I try and parse this, I get to a general statement.
So why, when I challenge said general statement, do you insert the word 'silly' in there?
I'm not talking about that, I'm not talking about insulting people. That is rude. What I am challenging is the idea that you can't comment because it
> implies a sense of authority or expertise that you really have no business in.
That statement isn't limited to rude things.
So rather than running off saying > Everything you're saying here seems to suppose that you can only be held accountable for the first order effects of your speech.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Why don't you read your first post and even if you didn't intend for it to be interpreted that way, at least accept that I did.