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All of these "incidents" sounds far less severe than what I see human drivers doing on urban streets day in and day out. And I bet that unlike half of human drivers, these robots at least have the capacity to use a fucking blinker.


City cultures are weird af.

Albuquerque NM has/had issues with older drivers (lots of retirees there and Santa Fe) who would refuse to use turn signals and would purposefully drive slow on the highways to slow the flow of traffic.

Police and highway patrol had to start issuing tickets and instituted minimum highway speeds.

Here in California, drivers all use their highbeams in the city. Police refuse to enforce it so it's become rampant.

Blinds me and sears my retinas thanks to my astigmatism. Like staring at the sun with those damned halogen lights.

When I was a young man with a new wife and child I applied with a local IT company to be a 'desktop expert' (they only knew business/IT solutions).

Part of the interview was driving around talking.

A person was pulling to a dog leg to turn, we were far from them and the other car had plenty of time/room to turn...since so were we. The owner- an older man, said 'I'm not going to signal because if I do, he will go first.'

Blew my mind someone could do that on purpose .

Moved back to California years later and it was endemic. People all over now do this and it infuriates me every time.

Or they see you waiting to turn and speed up until they see you give up on going, then slow to a crawl.

Contrast all of this with rural Texas and all of Washington where people wave, give right of way, always dim lights, move over for bikers, and are generally nicer, more respectful on the roads and in general.


Fun dirty secret of most current "self driving" implementations - they don't even recognize other cars turn signals, lol.

Let alone read subtle cues from the surrounding cars "body language" where you can take a pretty good educated guess they are going to change lanes or make a turn even though they haven't signaled, and therefore give them space. Generally they are pretty bad at anticipating things based on various indirect signals that are instinctual to a human.

There's a long way to go in the space, and the software hasn't even begun to play the "meta game" of driving required to be a halfway decent driver.


A lot of human drivers indeed are awful, but at least you can put a name and a face to them and punish them if they hurt you out of negligence, and maybe that makes people feel better about them than driverless cars owned by faceless corporations.


Exactly, imagine if we had food robot delivery and it worked like 99.999% of the time, but 0.001% of the time it consistently maims or murders the customer. How many 9s are enough? How do you punish and regulate the large entity behind the bulk main&murder?




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