What is fascinating about Teams is in how many different ways it fails for different people and setups.
I mean things like the electron app being behind the chrome web view (even through it's not much more then a web view and doesn't really add anything) is not surprising.
Like I have seen one or two cases of "uh teams fucked up my Laptop I have to restart", including with the electron app.
Many cases of "oh today teams decides to not allow screen sharing for me, this morning it did work?" (which then also randomly works again sometimes just by rejoining the call).
Also many cases of audio/mic randomly being terrible until you restart (through that might be the fault of chromes auto mic level adjustment).
My favorite is that when you hard switch of a mic it decides to warn you with a huge banner that you are muted ... but doesn't set your icon on muted. Which looks a lot like "we want to listen in even if you mute so please don't mute the mice on the OS level".
Also it sometimes randomly mutes you, like when you join a call (in chrome) to fast it hadn't yet loaded the "default mic on" setting so it's off (which for someone muting their mice with a physical button is just terrible UX).
But besides all it it still works better then Slack or worse Zoom in my experience. I mean it at least does work somehow most of the time even if with bad UX and drawbacks. While Zoom in my experience sometimes just doesn't work at all (on Linux/the web app). And in Slack if the connection is sup-par it's de-facto unusable.
EDIT: The most ridiculous is that they all decide to just not work on Firefox independent of weather Firefox supports the necessary APIs. In difference jitsi works in general better and on Firefox, which I could use it more.
> Which looks a lot like "we want to listen in even if you mute so please don't mute the mice on the OS level".
This is due to the "talking while on mute notification" feature. Disabling the mic by hardware or at the OS level breaks that feature. It certainly smells like a privacy concern, but the number of people who talk while on mute is also astoundingly common (myself included).
I mean things like the electron app being behind the chrome web view (even through it's not much more then a web view and doesn't really add anything) is not surprising.
Like I have seen one or two cases of "uh teams fucked up my Laptop I have to restart", including with the electron app.
Many cases of "oh today teams decides to not allow screen sharing for me, this morning it did work?" (which then also randomly works again sometimes just by rejoining the call).
Also many cases of audio/mic randomly being terrible until you restart (through that might be the fault of chromes auto mic level adjustment).
My favorite is that when you hard switch of a mic it decides to warn you with a huge banner that you are muted ... but doesn't set your icon on muted. Which looks a lot like "we want to listen in even if you mute so please don't mute the mice on the OS level".
Also it sometimes randomly mutes you, like when you join a call (in chrome) to fast it hadn't yet loaded the "default mic on" setting so it's off (which for someone muting their mice with a physical button is just terrible UX).
But besides all it it still works better then Slack or worse Zoom in my experience. I mean it at least does work somehow most of the time even if with bad UX and drawbacks. While Zoom in my experience sometimes just doesn't work at all (on Linux/the web app). And in Slack if the connection is sup-par it's de-facto unusable.
EDIT: The most ridiculous is that they all decide to just not work on Firefox independent of weather Firefox supports the necessary APIs. In difference jitsi works in general better and on Firefox, which I could use it more.