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What have Americans done other than warn of war but not do anything? If anything they made war more likely by preventing Russia from saving face. Even Zelenskiy said as much.

But the west didn't actually do anything... Why didn't they pledge any real support? What use was all the US' intelligence if in the end they just stand by?

It really feels like the west wanted this in order to justify more sanctions and completely sold out Ukraine.

Edit - on further thought, it feels like the US wants Ukrainians to fight and die. Really though, what use is the US?



> Really though, what use is the US?

What? Do you want the US interfering with your country? How many years did you have to create closer ties to the US before now? Why would the US want Ukrainians to die and why would they want Americans to die?


>Do you want the US interfering with your country?

Not in Ukraine, only of Ukrainian descent.

The US has already been interfering... Orange Revolution, Maidan, beating the NATO war drums, etc... They "encouraged" Ukraine to leave Russia's sphere but kept dragging out real timelines and concrete promises.

Right now, I'm watching Biden talk about "supporting" Ukraine while smiling and smirking. But nothing concrete. Really feels like the US wanted this just to sanction Russia. But Ukraine is being sacrificed...




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