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I'm reluctant to get too into it as it's a downvote magnet. This reply already should be legitimately downvoted just for being OT. Yes, they offer a magnificent service. Best of class or nearly so, for all their offerings and a decent free tier to get the mindshare. But: they want to dip their beak into all internet traffic. The power that comes with such concentration is impossible not to corrupt.

What efforts against censorship? Like how they (actively) cancelled 8chan and Daily Stormer?

I won't go into anti-surveillance much because it's too contentious. Very few recognize or want to acknowledge the downsides of 1.1.1.1.

I honestly don't want to get into it more than that in part because I've forgotten more than I used to know about their various business practices. (I used to work near to this space.) I have a vague idea that they have made centralized (power concentrating) choices in some cases, where they could have made decentralized choices, but I can't recall specific products ATM and, well, I'm only willing to invest so much time in this post. By their literal mission "to build a better internet", we can see from those choices that better is in the eye of the beholder. Just as evil has always been as defined by Google.

I don't mean that Cloudflare is willfully evil. At the time that I was intensely interested in them and formed this opinion I could find no evidence of willfulness, and their products and their operations have all the good protections. But they do get to define 'better' in their own image and in favor of their own interests.

I'm sorry to be so vague.



> What efforts against censorship?

Their efforts to roll out DNS-over-HTTPS and eSNI/ECH.

> Like how they (actively) cancelled 8chan and Daily Stormer?

I'll admit that was bad of them, but they're still way less cancel-happy than basically the entire rest of Big Tech.




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