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Ah it seems I was slightly off, it's TB3 not TB4, "The USB4 specification is based on the Thunderbolt 3 protocol specification." [0] But it does require: USB-PD, PCIe & DP tunneling, minimum 20 Gbit speed, max 40 Gbit speed. Stated goals to "minimize end-user confusion".

I've seen some peripherals and such with it, no laptops yet though. The spec was released in 2019, so considering hardware cycle time we should start to see more devices soon. It's pretty cool that Framework will likely be on the leading edge of that wave.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB4



> PCIe tunneling

Hell yeah, USB over PCIe over USB over PCIe here we goooooo!


The Dell XPS 13 9310 has two TB4/USB4 ports.


Is Dell still gimping them to 10Gbit/s like they used to? Considered an 13" XPS for years, but then turned to Apple because of this ridiculous decision.


They'd better not be. Thunderbolt 4 mandates 32Gbps of data.

The site says each port has 4 lanes of pcie 3.0




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