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No. What happened was that in the 70s energy got expensive. As renewables and battery tech get cheaper, we'll see bigger gains across the board. The "evil bankers" stuff is mostly a just so story to explain away the slowing of real growth for the last 40 years.


> What happened was that in the 70s energy got expensive.

Only temporarily. Energy today, adjusted for inflation, is actually quite a bit cheaper now than it was even before the early 70s oil crisis.


Nope [1]

Lord grant me the confidence of a HN commentor talking about economics :/

[1] https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?id=WTISPLC,


Evidently my previous guess (in another exchange upthread) that the Fed data was adjusted for inflation was incorrect. Here's an inflation adjusted chart of crude oil prices:

https://inflationdata.com/articles/charts/inflation-adjusted...

So, not "Nope".

Also, crude oil is not all there is to "energy". Here are a couple of other charts:

Electricity prices 1960-2011:

https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/annual/showtext.php?t=p...

I was somewhat off about the peak due to the "energy crisis", it was actually in 1983.

Gasoline prices 1929-2015:

https://www.energy.gov/eere/vehicles/fact-915-march-7-2016-a...


Still nope. What you’ve done is a very elaborate exercise in point missing, not that I’m surprised. Take a look at that chart again and do some thinking. There’s a reason for using nominal prices to illustrate what happened after the oil shock. The flat line that suddenly begins to jump around like a spastic house cat illustrates a very specific point. Anyway, I should know better than to engage with you people.

This comment section is nothing if not predictable.


Is this graph in nominal price or inflation-adjusted price? It is not obvious from the source.


Jesus fucking Christ


I asked a question to learn more, please be nicer.


Extraordinary


Given what I found in the link I posted in response, I think the answer is "nominal".


> What happened was that in the 70s energy got expensive.

Well, sure, but not durably so; the most dramatic examples being a pair of transitory geopolitical events producing short-term supply shocks.


No. This graph puts it in better perspective. Why comment with so much certainty when you clearly didn't check? God I hate this place.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?id=WTISPLC,




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