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Does it mean he's saying hang and power cleans are safer than deadlift? I've only ever deadlifted, but cleans always looked way more injury prone to me. Am I missing something? (I do deadlift not for the sake of deadlift)


IME it's very easy to get into a constant state of CNS burnout with deadlifts. It takes a lot of discipline to go into a gym and only deadlift upto like 70-75% of your max. The deadlift frankly is easy and fun, it's really only a challenging lift in the high 90s of intensity. So people who deadlift, probably do it too often and at too high intensities such that it takes away from other stuff.

I think one caveat he doesn't mention, is all the pro athletes choosing cleans over deadlifts also have coaches there who are making sure their form is good.

In that case then yeh, it's a more technical lift and provided you're getting good coaching you're less likely to burn out your CNS on a clean than on a deadlift.


Yeah I guess you're onto something there

I don't see why so much fear about DLs (and yes I've hurt myself once or twice - which is less than on other sports btw). And yes if you do it properly it's ok.

But I guess the issue is people trying to overexert and maybe not getting all the cues, and/or it's easy to "slip" and end up doing it with bad form and it requires good coordination (but maybe less than power cleans)

Low intensity, warmup, of course go for a PR once in a while because that's fun and maybe doing it more than 2x week is going to take a toll on your CMS


I think the point he's trying to make is even if you know how to deadlift correctly the amount weight involved carries a high risk of injury. Cleans on the other hand involve lower weight and so has a lower risk of injury (assuming you know how to perform it correctly, of course).


One of the reasons why I don't do weightlifting stuff is that they seem a lot riskier. Same doubt here. These people who recommend weightlifting stuff (I don't mean in any way to discredit Robert Oberst, Eddie Hall... I follow and watch Strongman scene and really enjoy these guys), are they recommending it as "you should get a weightlifting coach and learn the movements properly" or "go to the gym and do power cleans as you go"? I find powerlifting a lot easier to learn alone, youtube only. And less riskier with the progress of increasing load + nonstop learning.


You need a coach or a lot of discipline to learn how to safely clean. Deadlifts are still great. The previous comment about football teams takes other things into consideration. Like it's difficult to have great form for so many players and cleans are a power exercise. You'll see a lot of football players do trap-bar deadlifts because it's safer.


Unless you want to make weightlifting a part time hobby, don’t do cleans.




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