Please don't post generic flamebait like this to HN, especially not on classic flamewar topics. These discussions are all the same at this point, which makes them tedious and off topic here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24906708.