It's not gullible to read the actual articles and make your mind up about them rather than deciding to be ignorant about what entire swathes of what society are talking about.

You can baselessly claim Vox's reporting is wrong until you're blue in the face, but I'm still going to read it and make up my own mind.

> It's not gullible to read the actual articles and make your mind up about them

Of course. The thing is we obviously aren’t coming to the same conclusions and it’s hard for me to understand yours.

The same seems to go for you, but it appears that’s because you aren’t even trying to understand what I’m saying. You’re just baselessly calling my claims baseless.

You come into this thread trying to re-open an argument you tried and failed to make previously and call me gullible. It's hard for you to understand my conclusions because I've not stated any, I've simply stated we should read and criticise the article rather than writing off an entire news organisation. It's a little bit funny, that we've managed to discover 2 large, diverse news organisations with award winning journalists that you seem willing to entirely write-off in less than a week.

This is the entire problem with your position on this, you're just deciding to ignore whole swathes of journalism on some pretence.

I’m not reopening an old argument (which I didn’t fail to make but you failed to address), I just disagreed with you and mentioned that I recognized your username from a similar discussion.

You didn’t directly state your conclusions but obviously they differ from mine.

It doesn’t matter how large they are if they factually published total bullshit. That’s enough for me to fundamentally distrust them and I do think you’re gullible if you don’t because they are “large and diverse and award winning”.